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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:10 pm
by RobertGonzalez
julian_lp wrote:What I was trying to understand is how can be possible that a site which apparently "violates" every single rule of site design, could become such a success.... I'm not that silly to know that if the owners of the site wanted, they could hire 10 programmer to put the things in the correct place.
To hit the first part of your comment ... pictures of half naked girls splashed all over the place, with a communication system that allows you to be as much of a freak as you want with anyone that looks good to you. That is how they stay 'successful'.
For the second point... why fix what's not broken. At least not broken by their standard. If people are using it a lot and no one (except developers) is complaining, why mess with it?
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:11 pm
by Jenk
Besides.. it makes the rest of us look good

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:28 pm
by julian_lp
Everah wrote:
To hit the first part of your comment ... pictures of half naked girls splashed all over the place, with a communication system that allows you to be as much of a freak as you want with anyone that looks good to you. That is how they stay 'successful'.
Even though I basically agree with your opinion, it's just a partial explanation IMO, beacause there are tons of sites where you can see the same as in myspace (in regard to half naked girls). I'm under the impression that the freedom to do profiles anti-websitedesigners recommendations would be other of the possible explanations about the site's popularity as well
Everah wrote:
For the second point... why fix what's not broken. At least not broken by their standard. If people are using it a lot and no one (except developers) is complaining, why mess with it?
That's exacly what I think (I didn't say it, I know). In short words, I think that strict "recommendations" about design and usability, should be taken into account, but not forgetting that people sometimes do not agree with such advices
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:45 am
by onion2k
I'd kill to have a site as popular as MySpace.
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:25 am
by Jenk
I know a history teacher who is about 50, only got into computers about 5 years ago. He owns a site with "spartacus" in the domain, very simple pages.. mostly static html containing a few lectures/articles on roman and greek history.
He makes over £7,000 (roughly $13,000 USD) a month from adverts alone. Schools from around the world also pay him a fee so they can use his content, though he won't tell me how much, even though the articles etc. are 'not that special compared to some of the other stuff out there' (his words, not mine)
Jammy git.
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:47 am
by batfastad
MySpace has been a massive success.
The problem comes though with people editing their profile pages using tools and they don't really know what they're doing.
Probably 80% of all jazzed-up myspace profiles I've seen have the layout all over the place and layers all wrong with font colours that you can hardly make out on the background.
That's what happens when you let people who have no idea, edit web pages with no guidelines.
But I don't really care, still a massively popular site that's revolutionised communication and networking on the internet on a huge scale.
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:27 am
by php3ch0
I think that it is *smuf. (self censored)
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:00 pm
by s.dot
If someone could open a site geared towards the myspacers who like and have fun decorating their profiles... teaching them how to do it the correct way... that would be a big success
I'm too busy to do something like that. But you guys are free to use my idea. DO IT TO IT.

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:03 pm
by RobertGonzalez
Let's see... surf for half naked females or make my design sensible to a developer.... that's a tough one.

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:03 pm
by Luke
myspace is popular because it was first... that's why.
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:18 pm
by daedalus__
batfastad wrote:
But I don't really care, still a massively popular site that's revolutionised communication and networking on the internet on a huge scale.
I don't think they have any revolutionary features.
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:21 pm
by gkwhitworth
I guess it is one of those things we'll all just have to accept, and hope that the future of CSS and usability forces them to "abide" by the rules that we live by:
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:22 pm
by julian_lp
Daedalus- wrote:batfastad wrote:
But I don't really care, still a massively popular site that's revolutionised communication and networking on the internet on a huge scale.
I don't think they have any revolutionary features.
so you think that they are just lucky guys?
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:41 pm
by s.dot
julian_lp wrote:Daedalus- wrote:batfastad wrote:
But I don't really care, still a massively popular site that's revolutionised communication and networking on the internet on a huge scale.
I don't think they have any revolutionary features.
so you think that they are just lucky guys?
I don't think luck had anything to do with it. Word of mouth is very powerful!
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:28 pm
by daedalus__
julian_lp wrote:Daedalus- wrote:batfastad wrote:
But I don't really care, still a massively popular site that's revolutionised communication and networking on the internet on a huge scale.
I don't think they have any revolutionary features.
so you think that they are just lucky guys?
I think that they were first.
Any twelve year old could have come up with that list of features.