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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:05 pm
by Luke

If IE was a person, I would have him executed for complacency and being worthless.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:15 pm
by Grim...
None of the 'big 3' are fully standards complient, are they?
Opera is the closest, IIRC.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:21 pm
by John Cartwright
I wouldn't ever dream of using tables for anyone other than tabular data nowadays ..

Once you get the swing of CSS, you'll certainly appreciate it a whole lot more than tables.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:31 pm
by Luke
even forms?
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:34 pm
by Chris Corbyn
The Ninja Space Goat wrote:even forms?
I'm not sure what the fuss with forms is all about. I manage just fine with a little bit of fixed-width structuring. I reckon there are more elegant ways to do it with negative margins.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:36 pm
by Luke
I don't see what the big deal is about using tables for form layout... it just makes sense. I understand the site's layout not being in a table, but tables are PERFECTLY suited for forms... why not use them?
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:38 pm
by Chris Corbyn
The Ninja Space Goat wrote:I don't see what the big deal is about using tables for form layout... it just makes sense. I understand the site's layout not being in a table, but tables are PERFECTLY suited for forms... why not use them?
+1 to that. I use tables for forms about 50% of the time. It depends how often the form needs to change/how dynamic it is.
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:02 am
by RobertGonzalez
Tables for tabular data. In my opinion (yes, this is an opinion) forums are not tabular. Form are regular elements of a page that should be treated as their own types. Again, this is an opinion.
As for tabular layouts, bleh. Code to compliance, hack to non-compliance. Opera is the most standard browser, Firefox is a close second. Almost every one of my designs will work right off the bat in both of them. I usually have to tweak something for IE, but when it is done right, it can be hacked quickly and with little fuss. At least this has been the case in my experience. In fact, I haven't coded a table layout in so long I am not sure that I would be able to do it properly right now.
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:13 am
by Luke
Everah wrote:As for tabular layouts, bleh. Code to compliance, hack to non-compliance. Opera is the most standard browser, Firefox is a close second. Almost every one of my designs will work right off the bat in both of them. I usually have to tweak something for IE, but when it is done right, it can be hacked quickly and with little fuss. At least this has been the case in my experience.
Yea that pretty much describes me as well...
Everah wrote:In fact, I haven't coded a table layout in so long I am not sure that I would be able to do it properly right now.
yea I threw together a table layout the other day and it felt strange... It had to be a tabular layout because of a CMS system my boss uses for some of our clients. I never thought I'd say that...
OOPS... sorry for the double post... I'm not quite sure how that happened... ?

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:25 am
by RobertGonzalez
Took care of the second post for you.
I find it hard to use tables for layouts now. Sounds weird, but a few months ago I had a hard time wrapping my mind around CSS layouts. Now throwing together a table layout hurts my head.