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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:12 pm
by John Cartwright
The Ninja Space Goat wrote:I dont get it :?
#2 and #3 listing (#2 is the actual developers part)

http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=de ... +microsoft

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:39 pm
by Luke
What the hell?? That's the CEO of Microsoft? He's nuts! I can't even think of anything except what the hell??

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:47 am
by alvinphp
The Ninja Space Goat wrote:I dont get it :?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zEQhhaJ ... ed&search=

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:16 am
by Maugrim_The_Reaper
How does one run both versions on a single Windows install? Is it even possible?

I'm worried that if I update to test my webpages, that I'll find myself without an IE6 platform for testing. Having half the installation over the internet poses a few problems - how big is the transferred data, and how long will it really take a 56k connection to complete it. I can see this rollout taking months - not an overnight process...

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:20 am
by patrikG
IE7 is very easy to uninstall (via the Control Panel) and IE6 will be re-instated afterwards. Very painless, very straightforward. That's at least RC1 & RC2 - don't know if that's the case for IE7 final version.

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:23 am
by Maugrim_The_Reaper
I'm thinking installing/uninstalling cycles would be a bit hairy...:).

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:25 am
by patrikG
Really?

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:48 am
by Maugrim_The_Reaper
You think installing IE7, testing, uninstalling IE7, testing, and back to step 1 is not?

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:50 am
by patrikG
The release candidates did exactly that. Easy as pie, really, but, naturally, you had to restart the machine on each install/uninstall.

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:27 am
by AKA Panama Jack
Maugrim_The_Reaper wrote:How does one run both versions on a single Windows install? Is it even possible?
When it comes to Microsoft that is why many developers have more than one computer with different configurations for web work. :p Sad but true. My main work computer will never have IE7 on it but one of my other backup computer will probably get it.

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:31 am
by AKA Panama Jack
patrikG wrote:The release candidates did exactly that. Easy as pie, really, but, naturally, you had to restart the machine on each install/uninstall.
Those are Release Candidates. Usually when Microsoft makes a final release on something like this for their browser you cannot uninstall it once it has been installed. They don't even offer a way to do it. In the past some people have tried creating uninstallers for different versions of IE but half the time they end up hosing your windows install trying to remove only one version. Though, there are a couple of IE uninstallers that completely remove all versions of IE as proof of concept that IE isn't tied directly into the Operating System like Microsoft has claimed in the past.

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:34 am
by RobertGonzalez
You cannot run both on the same machine, at least form what I have found around the web. As for uninstalling (as I am looking into doing right now) the RC's made it easy to do. I haven't found anyone that has taken the final product and tried to uninstall it. I have found companies that are not planning on rolling out IE7 to their organizations for another year or so, so with that, I am going to be reverting back to IE6 in just a few minutes. I'll let you know how it goes.

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:34 am
by patrikG
Let's see if the final release has it. Don't think so, but we'll see. As I said, the RCs were easy as pie to uninstall.

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:53 am
by RobertGonzalez
It took about 5 minutes total (including the reboot) In fact, the uninstall and subsequent IE6 reinstall was faster than the install. Very nice. I might be inclined to pat MS on the back for that little wonder.

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:25 am
by Luke
nice