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I dunno if anyone alread posted this (if they did, sorry), but if not you may interested in reading this.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061031/tc_ ... ft_zend_dc
Sounds to me like Zend's idea of commercializing PHP is coming more and more true.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061031/tc_ ... ft_zend_dc
Sounds to me like Zend's idea of commercializing PHP is coming more and more true.
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Indeed, microsoft has been making strides to start accepting open source, sort of coming closer and closer to it over these years.Zend, as a business, seems to be growing up... Microsoft, as a business, seems to be smartening up...
IMHO
While the once obtuse open source products like unix, have developed easier methods and modes for lesser skilled indivuals.
Hopefully they'll meet in the middle ground and we'll all have some sort of computer bohdi..
Twelve-year-old PHP runs on more than 22 million Web sites and is used inside 15,000 companies.
15,000 companies, yet 4.5 million developers? There must be a lot of very big PHP dev companies I've never heard of.For the 4.5 million software developers using PHP, the partnership represents a victory for pragmatism, industry analysts said.
well, i know in a conference we had with Zend, they are looking to commercialize php and enforce license purchases in order to use it. This is just one of the steps they are using to go into that direction.
Now, I know some one ( or many all ) will flame that statement, but it's true. Take it as you will.
I only know we told them that we told them that if they DO this type of thing. there will be an open source development group that will just remake the free version of php on their own and they will go down the drain with the others.
just to clarify why i posted this to begin with
Now, I know some one ( or many all ) will flame that statement, but it's true. Take it as you will.
I only know we told them that we told them that if they DO this type of thing. there will be an open source development group that will just remake the free version of php on their own and they will go down the drain with the others.
just to clarify why i posted this to begin with
In what infolock said is some what true, but I know many of the developers have said that PHP will always maintain a community release, but will in the near feature follow the MySQL business model, where they have different versions based on the type of support you purchase. Which is really the only way any company will truly survive in the IT work place. Because support services is always over 70% of any projects lifetime overall cost! Sure that not true in open source land, but it is if you deal with IT level services.
I know at a resent workshop I was speaking at, Rasmus and Wez talked about keeping PHP separate from Zend because they both have different reason for existing. I also know that Rasmus has always said, that PHP growth and development model is community based, it's the community that has made PHP what it is today, not Zend!
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I know at a resent workshop I was speaking at, Rasmus and Wez talked about keeping PHP separate from Zend because they both have different reason for existing. I also know that Rasmus has always said, that PHP growth and development model is community based, it's the community that has made PHP what it is today, not Zend!
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I read the article and followed each message...
It certainly sounds like PHP or rather Zend is trying to commercialize...which is fine...and understandable.
From what I understand PHP now, is little more than the language itself and includes all it's bindings and interfaces (mysql_query, etc)
Zend on the other hand is the parsing and execution engine...the meat and potatoes of it all. I'm not sure what the implications might would be if Zend *really* commercializes everything, but I think we've all experienced this already and it's either affected us in a positive manner or not at all...
Zend core sounds alot like what I've read above...but doesn't sound like it will hinder any development for me personally...same goes for it's optimizer, etc...
I don't think I'd worry to much about anything yet...but maybe I don't understand completely...
Cheers
It certainly sounds like PHP or rather Zend is trying to commercialize...which is fine...and understandable.
From what I understand PHP now, is little more than the language itself and includes all it's bindings and interfaces (mysql_query, etc)
Zend on the other hand is the parsing and execution engine...the meat and potatoes of it all. I'm not sure what the implications might would be if Zend *really* commercializes everything, but I think we've all experienced this already and it's either affected us in a positive manner or not at all...
Zend core sounds alot like what I've read above...but doesn't sound like it will hinder any development for me personally...same goes for it's optimizer, etc...
I don't think I'd worry to much about anything yet...but maybe I don't understand completely...
Cheers
I think it's more likely that Zend want to establish PHP as a viable alternative to ASP.Net on IIS so they can sell Zend Encoder, Accelerator, Studio and maybe some advanced version of Framework. I shouldn't think they'd start charging for the language itself, that'd be like handing most of their following a very good reason to shift to Ruby.
yea I agree... I believe the folks over at Zend are wise enough not to <span style='color:blue' title='I'm naughty, are you naughty?'>smurf</span> off the largest group of its customers.onion2k wrote:I think it's more likely that Zend want to establish PHP as a viable alternative to ASP.Net on IIS so they can sell Zend Encoder, Accelerator, Studio and maybe some advanced version of Framework. I shouldn't think they'd start charging for the language itself, that'd be like handing most of their following a very good reason to shift to Ruby.