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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:33 pm
by daedalus__
I think we should have a Vent, an IRC, and SVN.
I have a 20-man Ventrilo at ventrilo.camicus.net:4008 (i think that host is correct, rofl, ip is 69.12.105.5)
I really like this name, though: PHP Developer Network Ninja Forum Space Crew Team. Just think, if we won with that name, rofl.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:40 pm
by Luke
It would be awesome if we won with that name. I'm all for it.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:06 pm
by Kieran Huggins
hehe - at the very least we could use a skype public chat - has built in support for file transfers. I've tried CampFire and am not that impressed. I have IRC in Miranda-IM, and there's always MSN as well.
Whatever we use to collaborate it should be minimally intrusive, with good notification settings. One of the nice things about the skype public chat is you can set word trigger notifications to pop up if someone mentions something. Has worked well for me.
I'm really not picky about the name, but it should definitely reflect the site.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:37 pm
by kaYak
I'd be willing to help with this if you could use me. It sounds awesome. I'd be happy to help keep track of what has to be done and make sure each category is covered. I've been using PHP for about 3.5 years now, but haven't done any heavy application development. I could test it as far as functionality and usability and help out with coding if needed. If you needed someone to think up a UI I could do that too. So, I don't mind not working with the PHP code itself, but could help with other aspects of the project.
I love the name. It sounds so professional if we won

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:11 am
by RobertGonzalez
Just so everyone is on the same page,
review the rules. They cover SVN and other important stuff in
the rules.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:16 am
by DaveTheAve
Alright, it's this weekend, what are we gonna do??? Whats the ABSOLUTE team name? I still have to register!
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:20 am
by Ollie Saunders
How about: "PHP Developer Network Team"
The silly one is fine but I doubt we'd look back and be proud of it.
We really need more ideas on what we are going to write, I've contributed one and received very few comments on it.
There's also no agreement on communication.
We could do with a leader too.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:42 am
by DaveTheAve
OLE That was the exact team name I was thinking of doing and, as we already know, I'm not to found of the longer version said prior. As for communication I think all of us can met on ether a IRC room, I already mentioned
GAIM for everyone, Linux and Windows, who does not have a (FREE) IRC client. As for a project, I like the idea OLE gave about a
Mind-Map; on-the-other-hand, we gain points for originality and usefulness, I'm not sure how both would play out with a
Mind-Map. As for a Leader I agree we need to appoint one.
Other Thoughts: While typing this I thought of the idea to create a Sub-category in the forum so we can further communication about PHP Throwdown; however, let only the developers who wish to participate be able to read&write to it. Creating a Forum group for PHP Throwdown will make permissions easier and the leader will have the founder spot for more control.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:15 am
by Ollie Saunders
Isn't IRC the best because we can have one main chat room and then PMs or separate rooms with a couple of people? Also most people will have an IRC client already. Perhaps somebody well informed (not me) should create a list of pros and cons for communication systems and we can choose from that.
As for a Leader I agree we need to appoint one.
Yes, and with such a short time span we'll probably need someone who can delegate well and is fairly autocratic; there won't be time for big discussions about things. Someone who has a clear idea about how this should be coordinated.
We should have the UI and feature set of our application agreed and planned first in a way that allows us to prioritise functionality, we don't want to be deciding such things on the day.
As for a project, I like the idea OLE gave about a Mind-Map; on-the-other-hand, we gain points for originality and usefulness, I'm not sure how both would play out with a Mind-Map.
I think its pretty original. But useful? Perhaps not. Usefulness isn't expressly mentioned in the judgement criteria but you know it is going to be a part of it.
PHP Throwdown Rules wrote:Code Readability & Documentation (5 pts) - how easy the code is to follow & read
Installation/Configuration (5pts) - how quickly and easily we can get it installed
Functionality (20pts) - what it does
Performance (5pts) - how quickly it does it
Error handling & Security (15pts) - what happens if there are errors and how secure is the code
UI/Appearance (5pts) - how pretty is the final product
Accessibility/Standards Compliance (5pts) - how well does it adhere to applicable standards
Code Innovation/Creativity (30pts) - how this is different than all the other apps out there.
Overall Quality of the App (10pts)
If we are going to come up with something that is "useful" then we probably should establish a need/requirement for some software. This is something I need and have been looking for some such software and not found it:
I wrote:I'm after something that makes, by means of prompting and selection
according to DTD, authoring of XML fool proof in the web page.
My target user base is intelligent enough to author XML and this could
really save on development effort where I would normally have to provide
forms and a web interface. But this is only viable if I can make the XML
straight-forward to author. I'm after something that ensures the XML is
valid to a DTD by presenting user with choices rather than just validating
text. So for instance if a DTD says tag 'd', 'e' and 'f' may only appear in
tag 'a' the user can choose 'a' and only then choose from 'd', 'e', 'f' or
close 'a'.
Sorry if that isn't exactly the greatest explanation of what I'm after.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:08 am
by Luke
ole that sounds a little complicated for 24 hours.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:07 am
by DaveTheAve
lol i didn't even understand what he said!
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:09 am
by daedalus__
A tool that generates well-formed XML with a doctype to accompany it?
Code: Select all
offtopic("someone should join my ventrilo because im always alone \nventrilo.camicus.net:4008");
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:57 pm
by Ollie Saunders
The Ninja Space Goat wrote:ole that sounds a little complicated for 24 hours.
hmm you might be right on that one

. shame, I really need that written

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:25 pm
by Kieran Huggins
I've been evaluating MANY different group chat environments lately (IRC, basecamp, MSN, etc...) and SKYPE has what seems to be the best offering in this department so far. Grout chat, PM, voice, file sharing (with group support), NAT traversal, word-triggered chat notification, and it's
FREE. I know IRC is more "uber" but as far as practicality is concerned, Skype seems to be in the lead.
I'll create the chat. Add me to your Skype list: kieran.huggins
What are we making?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:56 pm
by Ollie Saunders
I've added your KH. What ports do you need open for skype file transfers?