Phpers stupid??
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:47 pm
$_SESSION refered to as 'session variables' wtf $_SESSION Is an array how often do people use the term 'array variables';
I am sick of constantly seeing tutorials that explain the symptoms of problems rather then explaining the cause. Knowing the cause makes it easier to remember\understand and will help later on down the road.
(headers are a great example of what i mean as people get told not to echo\display because headers arnt sent but there are almost no tutorials (some but not many) that explain WHY headers do that)
Most php is php4 (not 5) I think this is because most php4 developers do not know how to use php5 properly that or they did not at the time they started their project. What do you think?
I think php needs to get rid of the embed the code in html approach. php is not that different to other server side languages as php is made out to be. php noobs love how they can just add a little here and there through their webpage and sure thats a good tool for people that want to add something here and there. But people that want to create a proper application should know better. Php has gained a reputation for messy code and it has nothing to do with the language and more to do with the fact that out of all web languages php has the largest percentage of inexperienced programmers and noobs.
php is not the only language where developers can code messy and ugly I have seen some ugly asp done it really is horrible. But php is known for having messy code because thats how php coders code.
Most if not all design patterns that are applicable to a server side web language work in php5s oop model this means that php can pretty much do everything needed to create enterprise applications in my mind although php has a few quirks for programmers to be aware of its no big deal.
Am I the only one that feels this way?? The more I Have learnt the more I have hated the php community. Not just because they are inexperienced but because the guys that actually do know a lot can be a bunch of elitists <span style='color:blue' title='I'm naughty, are you naughty?'>smurf</span>. Like say the guys in #php in freenode.net that are more likely to spend more time give you <span style='color:blue' title='I'm naughty, are you naughty?'>smurf</span> about the wording you chose then your actual going over your actual question.
I do see how some will read this rant and say "he is an elitist <span style='color:blue' title='I'm naughty, are you naughty?'>smurf</span> too" Why I think phpers are inexperienced and that many are ripping off their clients I do not have anything against people being beginners.
I should shutup. but as my closing statement there are what?? around 1500 zend certified enginiers?? I remember zend said around 1500 a few months ago on their site. yet how many millions have done php??
(I would seriously like some proper feed back and not a flame)
I am sick of constantly seeing tutorials that explain the symptoms of problems rather then explaining the cause. Knowing the cause makes it easier to remember\understand and will help later on down the road.
(headers are a great example of what i mean as people get told not to echo\display because headers arnt sent but there are almost no tutorials (some but not many) that explain WHY headers do that)
Most php is php4 (not 5) I think this is because most php4 developers do not know how to use php5 properly that or they did not at the time they started their project. What do you think?
I think php needs to get rid of the embed the code in html approach. php is not that different to other server side languages as php is made out to be. php noobs love how they can just add a little here and there through their webpage and sure thats a good tool for people that want to add something here and there. But people that want to create a proper application should know better. Php has gained a reputation for messy code and it has nothing to do with the language and more to do with the fact that out of all web languages php has the largest percentage of inexperienced programmers and noobs.
php is not the only language where developers can code messy and ugly I have seen some ugly asp done it really is horrible. But php is known for having messy code because thats how php coders code.
Most if not all design patterns that are applicable to a server side web language work in php5s oop model this means that php can pretty much do everything needed to create enterprise applications in my mind although php has a few quirks for programmers to be aware of its no big deal.
Am I the only one that feels this way?? The more I Have learnt the more I have hated the php community. Not just because they are inexperienced but because the guys that actually do know a lot can be a bunch of elitists <span style='color:blue' title='I'm naughty, are you naughty?'>smurf</span>. Like say the guys in #php in freenode.net that are more likely to spend more time give you <span style='color:blue' title='I'm naughty, are you naughty?'>smurf</span> about the wording you chose then your actual going over your actual question.
I do see how some will read this rant and say "he is an elitist <span style='color:blue' title='I'm naughty, are you naughty?'>smurf</span> too" Why I think phpers are inexperienced and that many are ripping off their clients I do not have anything against people being beginners.
I should shutup. but as my closing statement there are what?? around 1500 zend certified enginiers?? I remember zend said around 1500 a few months ago on their site. yet how many millions have done php??
(I would seriously like some proper feed back and not a flame)