[56K warn] FLASH == dead?
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- RobertGonzalez
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I think Flash will have a long standing future. If for no other reason than because it is so widely used by many corporate internal systems (e-learning, training system, rookie developers wanting to try stuff that made the boss go 'WOW'). I am sure someday browser will be endowed with the ability to handle CSS driven interaction similar to that of Flash, but until there is a need for Flash so I believe it will be around for a time to come.
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I'm assuming that anyone who's bashed Flash thus far doesn't really keep up with Flash, but the creators do a pretty good job of keeping up with the communities, especially FlashKit. Flash is about filesize. It has glitches, but nothing is perfect.
Google some flash websites. "best website design", "good flash websites", "flash website awards", or go straight to the source, Adobe. Developers have been creating very interesting effects and, with the advancements of current Flash, a lot more user interactivity is involved in the effects.
It really hurts to hear Flash shunned by web developers. It was made for us.
Google some flash websites. "best website design", "good flash websites", "flash website awards", or go straight to the source, Adobe. Developers have been creating very interesting effects and, with the advancements of current Flash, a lot more user interactivity is involved in the effects.
It really hurts to hear Flash shunned by web developers. It was made for us.
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Wow. a lot of responses!
To be honest, I'm relatively new to all this to be saying such things as Flash will die, I'm just merely asking a question
It's something thats been plaguing me all week, I think maybe I just really want to see something amazing in SVG.
and yeah. I totally didn't think about YouTube, but even then, it would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Flash wasn't ever there.
but generally, it seems like its not gonna die. you think they'll ever build it into ImageReady?
To be honest, I'm relatively new to all this to be saying such things as Flash will die, I'm just merely asking a question
It's something thats been plaguing me all week, I think maybe I just really want to see something amazing in SVG.
and yeah. I totally didn't think about YouTube, but even then, it would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Flash wasn't ever there.
but generally, it seems like its not gonna die. you think they'll ever build it into ImageReady?
Well, it will, because H.264 is very likely to be available as an option in the next version of Flash.seodevhead wrote:I guess I'm a bit bias with my hatred towards flash video. The audio syncs horribly with the video and I don't care what anyone says, it can't shake a stick at H.264 or WMV9HD. Nor will it ever.
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Really? Where did you hear this? I was under the impression that H.264 could not output to anything but quick/mpeg... if not, awesome... that would help flash tremendously... eventhough the player still stinks.onion2k wrote:Well, it will, because H.264 is very likely to be available as an option in the next version of Flash.
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You are most people. I think the correct term is 'Skip Intro' sites!Everah wrote:If I visit a website that uses flash and it doesn't load in under 2 seconds, I am gone. But that is just me.
I don't think its Flash but crappy developers who don't streamline their content.And I think that is where Flash is lacking the most.
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Now Flash, I can just about deal with... at least it's (almost) cross-platform.
I just (minutes ago) tried buy an Album from HMV's new digital download site.

That really annoys me... people who make it sounds like it's my system that's not suitable, rather than their developers decided to rule out all but one Operating System as a Customer Base.
I just (minutes ago) tried buy an Album from HMV's new digital download site.

That really annoys me... people who make it sounds like it's my system that's not suitable, rather than their developers decided to rule out all but one Operating System as a Customer Base.
- Ollie Saunders
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Berners Lee's (sp?) idea was that of XHTML, where different XML schemas (things like SVG and XForms) would be integrated with HTML allowing it to be accessible and semantic. What a brilliant idea! Too bad everybody is in love with their, standards ignoring, copies of Dreamweaver and Director and now XHTML has all but been dropped. SVG looks to be dead before it ever got going.It's something thats been plaguing me all week, I think maybe I just really want to see something amazing in SVG.
Considering the massive size of the web development industry it is really incredible how shoddy everything is.
- HTML - several versions floating about, mainstream generators disobey standards, tags themselves are pretty limiting
- CSS - has never been powerful enough, browser implementations vary (mostly fault of Microsoft), hacks in use
- JS - compatibility issues everywhere you look. Used all too often where mark-up based solutions should have been provided a long time ago
- Flash - not mark-up, so it can be parsed, what use is that?
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@d11: That is something that especially <span style='color:blue' title='I'm naughty, are you naughty?'>smurf</span> me off. Although, I can say that the other day our database admin had a help ticket in to our application vendor for a web based issue she was having. Their response was something along the lines of:
That was awesome, but disturbing at the same time.Your problem is a known bug in the way IE handles certain styling elements. At this time we are not going to be modifying our web site to accommodate a non-compliant browser. To alleviate the problem you are experiencing, we suggest you download a standards compliant browser like Firefox or Opera.
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Haha awesomeEverah wrote:Their response was something along the lines of:
That was awesome, but disturbing at the same time.Your problem is a known bug in the way IE handles certain styling elements. At this time we are not going to be modifying our web site to accommodate a non-compliant browser. To alleviate the problem you are experiencing, we suggest you download a standards compliant browser like Firefox or Opera.
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