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What is Gates talking about?
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:06 pm
by seodevhead
You probably thought I was going to start flaming on Bill Gates after his remarks today, but actually all I want to do is ask a question about something he mentioned in the interview...
He said quote...
"I would say it's less than 30 percent. We’ve had this incredible desktop search [available for download] that won every review, and I’ll bet that less than 10 percent of Windows users went and got that. Now with Windows Vista, you get something better. For most users, it’s the first time they’ve seen it at all."
What is this incredible desktop search for XP he is talking about? I need a good desktop search... anyone know? Thanks.
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:09 pm
by RobertGonzalez
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:19 pm
by seodevhead
You da man E
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:36 pm
by RobertGonzalez
I know. But try to keep it quiet. I don't want a bunch of PM's or Emails.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:40 pm
by seodevhead
You, ole, and feyd (and many others)... I'd still be in the dark ages of my development career.
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:50 pm
by Luke
same goes for me. thanks devnet.
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:51 pm
by Jenk
This is one of the items of bloat I've taken a disliking too. "Only 10% of XP users use it, so we will intergrate it as a part of the next OS so EVERYONE has to use it!!11"
Go go gadget market research skills, Bill!
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:26 pm
by RobertGonzalez
I can see this turning into another "
@$@&*%$@ Microsoft, Bill Gates and all of his ancestors". Try to keep it civil. We all have our dislikes for Microsoft (some of us more than others), but today seemed like a day when M$ has been irritating a lot of people.
Anyway, we have had quite a bit of bashing recently, so, like I said, try to be cool.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:52 pm
by jayshields
Again trying to lighten things up about MS...
I just found out that being a University of Manchester IT student grants me access to this MSDN Academic Alliance portal thing. I log in with my uni email and a given password, and I have access to loads of expensive MS software!
Some well-known stuff on there:
- Windows Vista Business
- Windows XP SP2
- Access 2003
- Visual Studio .NET 2003 Professional
- Visual Studio 2005
- SQL Server 2005 (All editions)
- Windows Server 2003 (All versions)
Ofcourse my uni must pay alot of money for this, but it's pretty damn sweet. I just click on one of the packages I want, it launches a download manager which gets me the disc image and then gives me a serial key.
Saying that, I downloaded Vista earlier on (2.xGB), it was an ISO. I opened with with WinRAR and all there was was a readme saying:
This disc contains a "UDF" file system and requires an operating system
that supports the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system specification.
Nothing will let me burn the ISO to disc, and the most comprehensive error message I've had is "Wrong disc type, please instert an ML disc". Does that mean multi-layer? Why!?
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:14 pm
by Jenk
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6320865.stm
For some light heartedness... makes me really chuckle as it has stark reminders of the "Irish Virus."
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:34 pm
by daedalus__
jayshields wrote:Again trying to lighten things up about MS...
I just found out that being a University of Manchester IT student grants me access to this MSDN Academic Alliance portal thing. I log in with my uni email and a given password, and I have access to loads of expensive MS software!
Some well-known stuff on there:
- Windows Vista Business
- Windows XP SP2
- Access 2003
- Visual Studio .NET 2003 Professional
- Visual Studio 2005
- SQL Server 2005 (All editions)
- Windows Server 2003 (All versions)
Ofcourse my uni must pay alot of money for this, but it's pretty damn sweet. I just click on one of the packages I want, it launches a download manager which gets me the disc image and then gives me a serial key.
Saying that, I downloaded Vista earlier on (2.xGB), it was an ISO. I opened with with WinRAR and all there was was a readme saying:
This disc contains a "UDF" file system and requires an operating system
that supports the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system specification.
Nothing will let me burn the ISO to disc, and the most comprehensive error message I've had is "Wrong disc type, please instert an ML disc". Does that mean multi-layer? Why!?
First, can i have server2k3 enterprise and sql server 2k5 enterprise?

:D
second, there are ISO burning programs that support burning of UDF. i think that PowerISO does and another named WinISO (i think i think). All i know is that you need an iso burning software that supports udf deals
p.s. phpdn looks really messed up in lynx
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:02 pm
by Ollie Saunders
re: feyd's point about using your brain in the thread everah linked to
You are provided with a system (files and directories) in which you can organize your data but that isn't necessarily the way your brain works. When I work on a piece of code or whatever my brain stores a load of related facts about it usually these facts are all linked to other facts which are linked to other facts which form a very complex yet unique representation of that piece of code. Files and directories are a poor emulation of this. You can relate things like "GTA" is related to "Rockstar" is related to "Games". But you are limited by an inheritance hierarchy and we should all know the problems with those heheh. Very often the decisions about what to store where is made early on before your brain even fully knows the facts of what you are storing. For instance I like to define a folder structure for a project before-hand.
The reason files and folders were chosen as the system for storing data is obvious. They are nice and reliable because one copy is only in one place and its familiar, like books in libraries. Something that lends itself to better findability however is tagging. As for search - you should only need that when you are missing nearly all of the facts about something. Search tools are a bit like auto-tagging of stuff for lazy and disorganised people.... they're nice to fall back on but using them all the time to find stuff is probably an indication that your lack of organisation is impeding on your productivity.
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:02 pm
by m3mn0n
Google Desktop is pretty handy:
http://desktop.google.com/
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:51 am
by Bill H
We all have our dislikes for Microsoft...
Indeed I do, but...
Visual C++ is awesome.
I wish I were still spending more time on desktop work.