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Seeking an IDE with a certain function

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:34 am
by Ree
So I've been using Zend Studio for quite some time, but I'd like to switch to something faster. However one absolutely essential feature I require is code completion similar to ZS (Eclipse style). This includes:

- A list of vars/classes/methods/snippets which pops up automatically while typing without the need to press any keys.
- Parameter hints for methods.
- Tab'able snippets. That is, you tab from one slot to another while inputing data into snippets.

So far I tried Nusphere PHPEd and PHP Designer 2k7. Both are poor in this dept.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:43 am
by Jenk
Give Eclipse a try. For some it is slow, but not everyone. It's nice and quick for me on Gentoo Linux. :)

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:58 am
by Ree
Does the PHP IDE (not PHPEclipse) offer the same level of code completion as Zend? The last time I tried it (more than half a year ago) it was hardly useable...

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:02 am
by Ollie Saunders
Zend is the best for code completition that's why I use it. Komodo might be worth a look,

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:47 am
by Jenk
Zend's PHP IDE (the Eclipse plugin) has good code completion. I can't offer a comparison as I have never used Zend Studio I'm afraid. Both Eclipse and the PHP IDE plugin are completely free though, so you could always give it a go. :)

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:18 am
by daedalus__
I switched from Eclipse to Zend Studio for a moment about 7 months ago. To put it lightly, I greatly prefer Eclipse. :D

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:25 am
by RobertGonzalez
I had used Zend Studio since July 2003. I tried Eclipse about two months ago and shelved Zend Studio. I have literally not opened it since. Comparing the two, Zend Studio is an absolute dog. It uses more memory, has serious issues when left open too long, Has problems with project management, does not have a built in browser for evaluation of code parsing, does not have a tool for plugins like Eclipse, it costs almost $300 USD and as of ZS5, it is really, really slow.

For me it was a no-brainer. Eclipse absolutely blows ZS out of the water. It handles code completion a lot better as well, in my opinion.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:52 pm
by Ree
I have tried PHP IDE with Eclipse. It's really nice, it just bothers me a bit that I have to use CTRL+SPACE too often to get the autocompletion list. But overall it's pretty good, especially compared to the version I remember from the past. I even noticed the bug I submitted long ago is indeed fixed. :)

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:08 pm
by RobertGonzalez
The code completion feature is a little slow. If you code slow, you can get away with not having to ctrl+space. But even if that is my only complaint, I can live with that.

I should note that I am using Eclipse with the PHPEclipse and Subclipse plugings. I am not using the PHPIDE.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:05 pm
by jyhm
Everah wrote:I should note that I am using Eclipse with the PHPEclipse and Subclipse plugings. I am not using the PHPIDE.
What's the difference? I have PHPeclipse installed does that mead I have the PHPIDE 'not installed'? What is the Subclipse plugin?

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:08 pm
by RobertGonzalez
I hadn't realized it until a while after I was using it, but the PHPIDE is different than Eclipse with the PHPEclipse plugin. And Subclipse is a subversion client plugin.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:06 pm
by daedalus__
I use PHPEclipse, as well.