[SOLVED] How important is it to buy out the .com domain?

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TheMoose wrote:But how can you hold that against GoDaddy when you have no proof it was their doing?
They guy agreed to confirm it with them over phone!
I must say that this was 1.5 years ago and I really don't remember if they spoke to him or not, but he agreed to confirm whatever we said.

I'm sorry TheMoose, but it seems like you are even more biased than Everah :P
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Oren wrote:
TheMoose wrote:But how can you hold that against GoDaddy when you have no proof it was their doing?
They guy agreed to confirm it with them over phone!
I must say that this was 1.5 years ago and I really don't remember if they spoke to him or not, but he agreed to confirm whatever we said.

I'm sorry TheMoose, but it seems like you are even more biased than Everah :P
Anyone can claim to be someone else over the phone, especially regarding a domain. I can whois a domain and get the primary contact info and use that info to pretend to be that person. And although he agreed to confirm it doesn't mean he actually did.

So I'm biased because I disagree with your belief? Ok...I usually consider myself pretty unbiased because I like to look at all aspects of the situation, not just the ones that make me feel better about my own opinion.
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TheMoose wrote:Anyone can claim to be someone else over the phone, especially regarding a domain. I can whois a domain and get the primary contact info and use that info to pretend to be that person. And although he agreed to confirm it doesn't mean he actually did.
Exactly, the moment he registered the domain, they got his information - therefore they could call him and verify everything they wished - on phone - like they would verified that you are the credit card owner and anything else. Much more serious actions are done over the phone, so changing the registrar of a PR2 domain shouldn't be such a big deal.

And I'm sorry, but from your replies I got the feeling that you have some connection to GoDaddy - that's how it sounds, seriously.
I'm sorry but I didn't mean to hurt you or something, I just said that this is how it sounded to me. I hope you don't take it too seriously :wink:
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No, I think they've got a valid point. Transferral of domain ownership by voucher on phone is not exactly a common operation, so I wouldn't be surprised if they refused to do it. Big company, bureaucracy, etc.

I think the way domain squatters work is that they watch expiring domains, and then buy them up immediately when they expire. Then, during the seven day grace period (during which they can cancel the registration and get their money back), they monitor the domain for hits: if they decide it's profitable, they keep it, otherwise it goes into registration limbo again.

Moral: don't let domains expire!
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Moral: don't let domains expire!
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Oren wrote:Exactly, the moment he registered the domain, they got his information - therefore they could call him and verify everything they wished - on phone - like they would verified that you are the credit card owner and anything else. Much more serious actions are done over the phone, so changing the registrar of a PR2 domain shouldn't be such a big deal.

And I'm sorry, but from your replies I got the feeling that you have some connection to GoDaddy - that's how it sounds, seriously.
I'm sorry but I didn't mean to hurt you or something, I just said that this is how it sounded to me. I hope you don't take it too seriously :wink:
They have his information, but so does anyone who does a simple WHOIS on that domain. What I'm saying is that I can pretend to be the domain owner and call up the registrar and tell them to transfer the domain to my buddy who is in on my scam. Why would any company use phone "confirmation" as the sole means of ownership? It's highly insecure as pretexting is so prevalent in this day and age.

I'm not hurt, I just don't like being called biased when I'm merely providing counter arguments to your perspective of GoDaddy. Discussion is nothing if everyone agrees.
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Well as I said, it sounded like you were biased, but now I see that Ambush Commander also thinks the same so I guess I was wrong and you aren't biased after all :P

But I still don't agree. I didn't say he would call them. I said they can call him and contact him. It is much more easy to get his username and password and just perform some actions on his behalf than stealing his phone number.

Anyway, just let it go. It happened long time ago so let's just forget about it.

P.S I still think GoDaddy sucks, but as I said - let's leave it.
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I think it's a good idea to buy your domain in a few TLDs. I own randomresources.com and randomresources.org, but I use the .org one as a personal site.
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