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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 4:53 am
by the_last_tamurai
the bad thing in that ...it's rare to be asked for them when they're available, and once you just forget them or the papers not available ....:twisted: Show me your paper please 8)

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 2:21 pm
by Luke
I went down and talked to the local court about it to see if I really had to pay that, and they said the fine was only if I didn't have insurance at the time, but could prove I have it now. My actual fine is $10. I knew that couldn't be right.
the_last_tamurai wrote:the bad thing in that ...it's rare to be asked for them when they're available, and once you just forget them or the papers not available ....:twisted: Show me your paper please 8)
:? huh?

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 2:29 pm
by Chris Corbyn
The Ninja Space Goat wrote:I went down and talked to the local court about it to see if I really had to pay that, and they said the fine was only if I didn't have insurance at the time, but could prove I have it now. My actual fine is $10. I knew that couldn't be right.
Sweet, that's good :)
The Ninja Space Goat wrote:
the_last_tamurai wrote:the bad thing in that ...it's rare to be asked for them when they're available, and once you just forget them or the papers not available ....:twisted: Show me your paper please 8)
:? huh?
I think he means "Sod's law" or "Murphy's law" or whatever variation on that saying you have :) As in, you carry what you need 99.9% of the time, and never need it, then the day you forget it, you get asked for it. Sod's Law :)

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 2:35 pm
by Luke
Oh ok :)

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 4:16 pm
by RobertGonzalez
Glad that worked out for you. Now the cops can be your friends again :D

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 4:25 pm
by Vicious
pickle wrote:Same law in Canada. You've got to have the documents readily available or you get a fine.

Doesn't seem that excessive. You want to see excessive - don't go down to the courthouse ;)
its not the same in Canada, I used to never carry a wallet so my license and <span style='color:blue' title='I&#39;m naughty, are you naughty?'>smurf</span> would be at home and being 16-17 at the time I would get pulled over about every other weekend and the cops would just ask my name and he can look it up on the computer and never once gave me a ticket or asked me to prove my insurance but thats probably because I live in Saskatchewan and our we only have one choice for our auto insurance.

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 4:29 pm
by RobertGonzalez
In California, having proof of valid insurance, proof of valid vehicle registration and a valid driver license is law. Essentially if you are going to operate a motor vehicle, all three things needs to be readily available in the event a police officer, from any jurisdiction in the state, decides they want to pull you over.

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 8:29 pm
by Charles256
You should always like the cops. They do things I don't want to think about. Go cops! :-D

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:12 am
by the_last_tamurai
d11wtq wrote:
The Ninja Space Goat wrote:
the_last_tamurai wrote:the bad thing in that ...it's rare to be asked for them when they're available, and once you just forget them or the papers not available ....:twisted: Show me your paper please 8)
:? huh?
I think he means "Sod's law" or "Murphy's law" or whatever variation on that saying you have :) As in, you carry what you need 99.9% of the time, and never need it, then the day you forget it, you get asked for it. Sod's Law :)
Thank you for rephrasing my words..and yes that what I mean and it's happening all the time here :(

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:26 am
by Luke
Charles256 wrote:You should always like the cops. They do things I don't want to think about. Go cops! :-D
maybe where you come from. here, they're all a bunch of incompetent pieces of crap. They pull me over like once a week and search my entire vehicle for being on probation from a dui almost 3 years ago, and yet when my parents truck was stolen, they did not even INVESTIGATE. They didn't do ANYTHING. They said... "actually, we don't believe anybody stole your truck. We think you're trying to get insurance money". They left it at that. The End. Tell me those people are awesome. They are lazy, fat, and incompetent. They get off on giving people tickets for stupid crap and yet when it really comes time to do their job, they don't. :evil:

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:46 am
by TheMoose
Oh it's not just where you are. It's everywhere. Virginia state police are notorious for extensive racial profiling, asking to search your car without probable cause (I've had to deny them twice), and other offensive things.

I got pulled over around 2:30AM about a week after I got a new truck. The previous owner didn't live in VA, so the tint laws wherever it was were obviously different. He also put spinner rims on it. The place where I was originally seen had no lamp posts near it, so there's no way the cop saw that the truck had any tint on it, all he saw was the spinners, and the fact that it's a Lightning. He strolled up to the window, and when I rolled it down, you could see the "oh wow" expression on his face, as I honestly believe he thought I was going to be black or hispanic. I gave him all my papers, and all he said was "the tint is too dark, you need to get it taken off", and let me go with just a warning.

I've had people tell me he was just doing his job. I wasn't speeding, it was too dark to see tint, and it's an expensive truck with spinners. Yeah, he's doing his job.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:06 am
by CoderGoblin
In germany it used to be law that you had to carry around an identity card/passport around at all times. At the moment it is you need to be able to prove to police you are who you say you are with some form of photo identification (credit card will not do). The UK driving license is stupid (at least 4 years ago it was). You have a nice credit card style license but you also have a large paper document which doesn't fold nicely into a wallet. Both are required to be with you for the license to be valid. Go figure.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:36 am
by shiznatix
Not to hijack the thread but as you may have noticed I just moved back to Estonia (yay!)

2 weeks before I left the USA I got a speeding ticket right outside of Pittsburgh. a $168 fine, just sign the paper and slow down and that was it. The other day my mom got a letter in the mail (because I always use mommies address as my official address, throw them off my trail) and the letter said that if I don't show up for this class within like 30 days my license is suspended. WHAT!? I paid the stupid fine! What do they expect me to do, come back to sit and listen to some over paid and uneducated fool tell me 'driving fast will kill babies' for a half hour!? Arg I hate the system so much.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:29 am
by Kieran Huggins
Up here in Canada the Mounties are tough as well. Just last week I was sledding along, minding my own business and a Mountie stopped me for a "routine" dog inspection. Now I know that chihuahuas aren't your typical sled dog, but they do just as well when you have 30 or 40 pulling one sled. I consider his actions to be breedist, it's actually cheaper in the long run since they're smaller and more modular, but try telling the Mounties that!

Long story short, he confiscated half my supplies and I had to spend the next 2 days in Fort McMurray while waiting for 40 insulated harnesses and 160 special order snow boots. Where am I going to store all that equipment when the thaw comes in July?

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:23 am
by Burrito
Kieran Huggins wrote:Now I know that chihuahuas aren't your typical sled dog
down here in Phoenix...we use Yorkies.