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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:12 am
by ptrpan
superdezign wrote:And I don't know if anyone else has this difficulty, but when I minimize windows, I do so by clicking the bottom bar. However, even right clicking, Safari does not have a minimize option. The only way to minimize is from the top right bar.

Feels weird.
I have the same problem. I want to minimize MY way!!!

Another annoying "feature" is that when safari is maximised to fit the whole screen, and I minimize, and then maximize again, the screen goes back to the "not full screen maximise" (<- hope you guys can understand what I'm trying to say)

Besides the nitty gritty bs, I am yet to encounter a crash or "page wont display" or "no text on the browser" kind of problem.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:04 pm
by AKA Panama Jack
The Ninja Space Goat wrote:
Everah wrote:Dude, Safari's rendering was the only one I have seen that comes close to what is expected (actually, it looked dead on).
ah ah ah! Opera my man!
Yep, Opera and Safari have been about the only two browsers that have really been able to pass the Acid 2 test. :D

Safari is fast and about as fast as Opera when it comes to page rendering. Firefox has always been dead last when it comes to rendering speed. Especially when javascript is being used. :o Never understood why people would want to use a browser as slow as Firefox but then again coming from IE anything would be better. ;)

Safari still has some problems with Flash. There are some sites where things are just completely missing from the flash content.

The other thing that annoyed the hell out of me is the Apple way of dropdown menus. You have to CLICK on the highlighted menu item for the drop down to appear. That annoys me no end after being used to dropdowns appearing as soon as your mouse hovers over the menu selection.

About the only thing that I drool over in Safari is their font smoothing. Man it is absolutely GORGEOUS! The fonts look so clear and clean. There is no comparison to Windows ClearType font smoothing. Windows ClearType is just plain gawd-awful ugly in comparison. I wish there was a way to install a module from Apple that would add the Apple font smoothing to the Windows XP font smoothing selection in the Display Properties.

Just the fact that web pages look so damned GOOD because of the font smoothing is almost, I said ALMOST, enough to make me switch from Opera. :twisted: But the menu selection thing and how they don't include a bookmark import for Opera among a few other niggling problems will keep me from making the switch.

But damn their font smoothing can make sites look so much better.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:05 pm
by AKA Panama Jack
Everah wrote:
The Ninja Space Goat wrote:
Everah wrote:Dude, Safari's rendering was the only one I have seen that comes close to what is expected (actually, it looked dead on).
ah ah ah! Opera my man!
You know, I think something is new there then because the last time I tried Opera on the Acid Test it did not render that way. But I am glad it does.
Opera has been able to render the Acid 2 test proper since version 9. A little over a year and a half now.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:17 pm
by Ambush Commander
Oy, Jaybird, I know your comment got buried, but I have the same problem too. No text at all. No text on web pages, no text on menus, no text on top, etc.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:47 pm
by Weirdan
On WinXP32 I had been having all kinds of crashes, but on Vista64 I had no crashes at all.
Just the fact that web pages look so damned GOOD because of the font smoothing is almost, I said ALMOST, enough to make me switch from Opera.
Just the opposite here. Font smoothing makes the text look extremely blurry on my old Samsung CRT and I would like to turn it off completely (which is not possible I reckon).

I have problems with some text disappearing from webpages too. E.g. links on our portal page (http://forums.devnetwork.net/).

And what is worst, Safari doesn't allow me to configure proxy server, so I forced to use my own 64Kbit connection instead of corporate 2Mbit Image

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:58 pm
by RobertGonzalez
Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Font Smoothing

And when I installed Safari it picked up on my connection settings from my other browsers, proxy and all. It looks like, in this beta addition, proxy configuration is disabled. I would have to imagine that it will be released in the RC though.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:27 pm
by Weirdan
Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Font Smoothing
The lowest I can set there is "Light", and that is still too blurry to my taste. I'd like to turn off this "feature" completely.
And when I installed Safari it picked up on my connection settings from my other browsers, proxy and all.
That didn't work for me.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:53 pm
by superdezign
ptrpan wrote:Another annoying "feature" is that when safari is maximised to fit the whole screen, and I minimize, and then maximize again, the screen goes back to the "not full screen maximise" (<- hope you guys can understand what I'm trying to say)
Yes, I hate that.



And when I test pages locally, I get page-retrieval errors every time that I save the page. It's annoying.

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:10 pm
by Charles256
I just switched to safari and holy hell do I love this browser.. It's georgous..I can't think of any other way to put it.

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:01 pm
by anjanesh
WaldoMonster wrote:On my system with Safari 3.01 crashes on some websites like:
http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1&hl=en
Type something in and it crashes.
Does someone else have the same problem with Safari or is it just my system?
So far no problem here but Safari does take a min 50MB memory and I was running this on a machine having almost 2GB RAM - so unless this is a memory leak problem...

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:04 pm
by superdezign
It happened to me on 1GB.

Although, regardless of memory, it shouldn't happen at all.

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:17 pm
by RobertGonzalez
I have 1GB, Safari loads at about 35MB and quickly gets to (and maxes at) about 55MB. Compare that to FF that loads at 38MB and gets to 280MB in about an hour. And never goes down.

Still not gonna ditch FF yet. But if Safari comes out with extensions like FF does, I would seriously consider the switch. Of course, I would switch to Opera if it became more flexible as well.

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:17 pm
by RobertGonzalez
I have 1GB, Safari loads at about 35MB and quickly gets to (and maxes at) about 55MB. Compare that to FF that loads at 38MB and gets to 280MB in about an hour. And never goes down.

Still not gonna ditch FF yet. But if Safari comes out with extensions like FF does, I would seriously consider the switch. Of course, I would switch to Opera if it became more flexible as well.

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:25 pm
by superdezign
Everah wrote:I have 1GB, Safari loads at about 35MB and quickly gets to (and maxes at) about 55MB. Compare that to FF that loads at 38MB and gets to 280MB in about an hour. And never goes down.

Still not gonna ditch FF yet. But if Safari comes out with extensions like FF does, I would seriously consider the switch. Of course, I would switch to Opera if it became more flexible as well.
100% with you. ^_^

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:32 pm
by AKA Panama Jack
You should check out Opera's Developer Tools. :)

http://dev.opera.com/tools/

Just drag the button from the above page to any tool bar to install it. Can't get any easier than that. :D

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