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Safari on Windows

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:38 pm
by jason
Here's the URL to the page where you can download the beta.

http://www.apple.com/safari/download/

Enjoy!

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:49 pm
by The Phoenix
Its worth mentioning that while the site claims it requires XP or Vista, it installs and runs flawlessly on Win2k pro.

Extremely fast browser. Seems faster than Opera on most things.

Also, you can develop for the iPhone by developing for Safari.. (full) Safari is native on the iPhone.

Neat stuff!

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:01 pm
by Luke
Awesome! Thanks for letting me know jason. :)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:09 pm
by infolock
aye, this is excellent. now i can test for safari easier.

just too bad safari, wether it's on apple or windows, still sucks :(

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:12 pm
by jason
Yeah, but firefox is sucking equally these days. Yay for massive memory usage and for crapping out. Let's freeze the browser window every few seconds and let's lock down the whole browser because one script is running.

IE7 is more stable these days.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:14 pm
by infolock
haha. tell me about it. cross browser compatability is becoming harder and harder and harder to achieve as these guys continue to try and make their browser "better". oh well, guess it keeps you and i with a job ;)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:15 pm
by JellyFish
Sweet now I can test the platform, as long as it runs same on windows as it does on a mac.

Btw what's Safari's engine? I think it's Gecko but I'm not sure. If so then how different is it from Firefox?

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:22 pm
by jason
The engine is called WebKit, which is the open source engine behind Konqueror (I believe that's still the case).

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:25 pm
by vigge89
Tried it, uninstalled it after the first run when for some reason no text showed at all, neither on the pages or in the UI.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:26 pm
by JellyFish
Oh cool, I'll look into it.

Apple changed their website!

I'm such a fan of apple but never have bought any of there products... Some day apple. :(

Which do you think is faster on a PC: firefox or safari?

EDIT: Safari definitely! I ran http://www.uselesspickles.com/triangles/demo.html in firefox and I see a stick every second or so, on safari, it's just SMOOTH!

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:14 pm
by superdezign
jason wrote:Yeah, but firefox is sucking equally these days. Yay for massive memory usage and for crapping out. Let's freeze the browser window every few seconds and let's lock down the whole browser because one script is running.

IE7 is more stable these days.
Uninstalling/Disabling add-ons speeds up Firefox a lot. Only enable them when you plan on using them.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:31 pm
by RobertGonzalez
I really like Apple software. It installs easy, works easy and is very intuitive. Nice job Apple.

As for Firefox. I am a die hard Firefox advocate, but there has literally been nothing that has ever made it not hog up resource on my system and freeze it after hours of extended use.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:59 pm
by Chris Corbyn
Awesome :) I'll have to give this a go tomorrow at work on one of our windows machines. I'm really glad they've done that. I disagree that safari sucks... maybe it used to, but I've tried just about every web browser I can try and have kept coming back to safari. I've yet to write anything it won't render as well as firefox. JavaScript runs faster than in firefox (in particular, XmlHttpRequest does not cause that flicker you get in FF -- which you probably never notice, and DOM manipulation is much faster). It doesn't guzzle up memory neither. Downside? No good developer tools for debugging :(

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:11 pm
by superdezign
d11wtq wrote:Downside? No good developer tools for debugging :(
Firebug will forever keep me on FF. :-D

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:11 pm
by JellyFish
Another downside to safari, I think, is it's usability. I know apples trying to go with this "simple less cluddery space" but I just like the way I surf on firefox.

I'd be like: middle click this,