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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:21 pm
by patrikG
The Phoenix wrote:Yup. When I get the money and can make the switch, I'm there. Here's why its miles beyond *any* other smart phone on the market:
1. *FULL* browser. Not Opera Mini (which changes the code presented to the browser - making development for it a challenge), not a WAP browser, not a "HTML3, but some of 4 and even a couple css bits" browser, but a full browser.
2. Rotate screen awareness - flip the screen up and down, and you get the newspaper view. Sideways? You get the landscape view.
3. Web 2.0 apps can access phone features. Sexy. Lets me do what I want!
4. I don't own an mp3 player. It comes with one of the best mp3 players on the market.
5. Apple quality software and interface.
6. Google apps, maps, and more all *tested* and working well on it.
7. Video voicemail.
8. Uses Wifi when available or wireless when not for 'net functions. I'm around a wifi connection roughly 80% of my day, so almost no cost for my browsing.
9. Plays movies, shows, music, youtube, and more.
10. The interface for choosing the media you want to access is unbeatable. Absolutely gorgeous.
11. Bluetooth, USB, and wifi syncing to my computer.
12. One of the highest resolution screens on the smartphone market today. I like to *see* what I am accessing.

I hear what you're saying, but my Nokia N80 can do all that (once I've installed GMaps & Truphone) - but admittedly, it's not as sexy, not as easy to use as the youtube presentations make the iPhone out to be. On thing I'm concerned about is scratching the screen - and with a huge screen like an iPhone... well, you get the picture. However, in terms of "sexiness" the iPhone beats anything on the market hands down.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:37 pm
by gaogier
patrikG wrote:The Phoenix wrote:Yup. When I get the money and can make the switch, I'm there. Here's why its miles beyond *any* other smart phone on the market:
1. *FULL* browser. Not Opera Mini (which changes the code presented to the browser - making development for it a challenge), not a WAP browser, not a "HTML3, but some of 4 and even a couple css bits" browser, but a full browser.
2. Rotate screen awareness - flip the screen up and down, and you get the newspaper view. Sideways? You get the landscape view.
3. Web 2.0 apps can access phone features. Sexy. Lets me do what I want!
4. I don't own an mp3 player. It comes with one of the best mp3 players on the market.
5. Apple quality software and interface.
6. Google apps, maps, and more all *tested* and working well on it.
7. Video voicemail.
8. Uses Wifi when available or wireless when not for 'net functions. I'm around a wifi connection roughly 80% of my day, so almost no cost for my browsing.
9. Plays movies, shows, music, youtube, and more.
10. The interface for choosing the media you want to access is unbeatable. Absolutely gorgeous.
11. Bluetooth, USB, and wifi syncing to my computer.
12. One of the highest resolution screens on the smartphone market today. I like to *see* what I am accessing.

I hear what you're saying, but my Nokia N80 can do all that (once I've installed GMaps & Truphone) - but admittedly, it's not as sexy, not as easy to use as the youtube presentations make the iPhone out to be. On thing I'm concerned about is scratching the screen - and with a huge screen like an iPhone... well, you get the picture. However, in terms of "sexiness" the iPhone beats anything on the market hands down.
you can get things that de-scraches scratches on FTP screens, DS touch pad, CD's but im sure the DS touch pad is the same type, so it should be fine, if you get a scratch.
I know this product, costs, £13.99
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:37 pm
by alvinphp
i am definitely getting the phone. i just want to know how early i have to be to get it on day one.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:52 pm
by feyd
patrikG wrote:I hear what you're saying, but my Nokia N80 can do all that (once I've installed GMaps & Truphone) - but admittedly, it's not as sexy, not as easy to use as the youtube presentations make the iPhone out to be. On thing I'm concerned about is scratching the screen - and with a huge screen like an iPhone... well, you get the picture. However, in terms of "sexiness" the iPhone beats anything on the market hands down.
The screen is glass now, with 40% longer lasting battery than previously stated.
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:30 pm
by JellyFish
Made this topic a poll so that I'm not as confused as who is and who's not getting an iPhone.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:09 pm
by The Phoenix
patrikG wrote:
I hear what you're saying, but my Nokia N80 can do all that (once I've installed GMaps & Truphone)
What? You missed: No rotate screen awareness, web 2.0 can't access the phone features, no video voicemail, no wicked media choosing interface.
I don't *think* the N80 does wifi for browsing, but I could be wrong about that one. I'm interested to know if it does however. I was still surprised at some of the things it did. I didn't realize it uses the same html engine source (webkit). Very nice.
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:28 am
by patrikG
The Phoenix wrote:patrikG wrote:
I hear what you're saying, but my Nokia N80 can do all that (once I've installed GMaps & Truphone)
What? You missed: No rotate screen awareness, web 2.0 can't access the phone features, no video voicemail, no wicked media choosing interface.
I don't *think* the N80 does wifi for browsing, but I could be wrong about that one. I'm interested to know if it does however. I was still surprised at some of the things it did. I didn't realize it uses the same html engine source (webkit). Very nice.
Nokia N80 has Wifi browsing, Nokia N80IE (internet edition) - you can upgrade the firmware of your standard N80 to become a N80IE - allows for VOIP. Don't need to rotate my screen (if I do, I hold it differently). Reg. video voicemail: I can do Video calls with the N80 - but I never have. And the voicemails I have I listen to, don't need/want to see faces. Web 2.0: if you're referring to GMail, GMaps etc.: got all that. Media choosing interface: as I said, in terms of sexiness, the iPhone can't be beaten at this point.
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:17 am
by The Phoenix
patrikG wrote:Nokia N80 has Wifi browsing, Nokia N80IE (internet edition) - you can upgrade the firmware of your standard N80 to become a N80IE - allows for VOIP.
VERY cool. I didn't know that!
patrikG wrote:Don't need to rotate my screen (if I do, I hold it differently).
You miss the beauty of this feature. If you are viewing a landscape document, you can rotate the device, and it detects that and displays it landscape instead of the standard orientation. It enables wide document viewing, which is really nice for things like cover art, and wide portions of web pages.
patrikG wrote:Reg. video voicemail: I can do Video calls with the N80 - but I never have. And the voicemails I have I listen to, don't need/want to see faces.
Thats not what vido voicemail entails. Its a table-view of the calls you have to go through, and you can select them out of order - on a video screen - instead of manually going through them over the phone via clunky key entry. For someone getting 1-2 voicemails, its really not that unique. For someone getting dozens a day, its *amazing*.
patrikG wrote:Web 2.0: if you're referring to GMail, GMaps etc.: got all that.
No. I mean, you can write a web 2.0 app (ajax/html), that will launch phone features like making a call or checking voicemail. So I can make a 'start page' for my phone that browses stocks, shows my score in my favorite game, and has a link to call my wife before noon.

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:05 am
by patrikG
The Phoenix wrote:patrikG wrote:Don't need to rotate my screen (if I do, I hold it differently).
You miss the beauty of this feature. If you are viewing a landscape document, you can rotate the device, and it detects that and displays it landscape instead of the standard orientation. It enables wide document viewing, which is really nice for things like cover art, and wide portions of web pages.
My daily camera has that - it's a nice feature
The Phoenix wrote:patrikG wrote:Reg. video voicemail: I can do Video calls with the N80 - but I never have. And the voicemails I have I listen to, don't need/want to see faces.
Thats not what vido voicemail entails. Its a table-view of the calls you have to go through, and you can select them out of order - on a video screen - instead of manually going through them over the phone via clunky key entry. For someone getting 1-2 voicemails, its really not that unique. For someone getting dozens a day, its *amazing*.
That sounds extremely useful indeed. Wasn't aware of that. Sweet.
The Phoenix wrote:patrikG wrote:Web 2.0: if you're referring to GMail, GMaps etc.: got all that.
No. I mean, you can write a web 2.0 app (ajax/html), that will launch phone features like making a call or checking voicemail. So I can make a 'start page' for my phone that browses stocks, shows my score in my favorite game, and has a link to call my wife before noon.

Gotcha. Admittedly, all that plus the fact that you basically have an iPod as part of the iPhone makes it a very attractive pacakage

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:37 am
by feyd
For myself, it's a consolidation of devices I currently have to carry into a very sleek, clean package. Then there's the features no one has yet, which have been listed already; icing on the cake.
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:31 am
by RobertGonzalez
That was my deciding factor when switching to the Kyocera smart phone all those years ago... consolidation of devices. For me though it was a PDA and phone into one. With the iPhone, it can be as much as a PDA, Phone, Camera, Browser and MP3 player.
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:45 am
by The Phoenix
feyd wrote:For myself, it's a consolidation of devices I currently have to carry into a very sleek, clean package.
Two words:
Duct. Tape.

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:57 am
by superdezign
I see where sleek and clean comes in there.

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:54 pm
by JellyFish
Why doesn't anyone want the precious?
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:12 pm
by superdezign
JellyFish wrote:Why doesn't anyone want the precious?
- Price
- AT&T ([s]Cingular[/s])
- The fear of Google-Apple becoming the next Microsoft