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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:55 am
by superdezign
timvw wrote:Reality has learned me that not html, but ie-html (the stuff the internet explorer engine is able to render) is the standard... (That doesn't mean that i like it)
IE6-HTML. I've never upgraded to IE7 because too many people still use IE6.
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:53 am
by The Phoenix
timvw wrote:Reality has learned me that not html, but ie-html (the stuff the internet explorer engine is able to render) is the standard... (That doesn't mean that i like it)
Its not standard, its just pervasive. Like mold.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:30 am
by CoderGoblin
When it comes down to it how many users care ? You don't get to see if pages validate normally when browsing, so the majority of users don't. What most users do care about is the speed of their search.
It is more interesting to note how many sites do not think more about accessibility, despite the law in a lot of countries. I read an article some time ago about amazon and it's lack of functionatilty in terms of accessibility. Do not know how Google rates. Saying that validation is easy to check with freely available tools. Accessibility isn't.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:12 am
by superdezign
CoderGoblin wrote:Do not know how Google rates. Saying that validation is easy to check with freely available tools. Accessibility isn't.
Google's actually done very well with accessibility (or anything that they feel handicapped people would have a reason to look at). Sadly, Google's navigation isn't very organized. Once you go deeper into the site, the only way to get back to the search is to type it google.com in the browser. They treat every section as it's own website, basically.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:30 am
by RobertGonzalez
superdezign wrote:Sadly, Google's navigation isn't very organized. Once you go deeper into the site, the only way to get back to the search is to type it google.com in the browser. They treat every section as it's own website, basically.
If I had one gripe about Google, that is it. And how in their navigation, when you click on the Google Home link (if there is one) it often times opens a new window. That kinda sucks.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:11 pm
by ReverendDexter
Hockey wrote:The point is, as a professional, do you sell a car knowing the tires are under-inflated and could potentially pose a safety risk. Just because most people who drive don't pay attention to tire pressure?
Depends on what level you're talking, if you're a professional in the sense of the "person" who makes the cars, yes, yes you do, if you know that those underinflated tires increase user comfort for 95% of your customers, and the cost of dealing with the 5% of the customers who will experience problems is cheaper than solving the problem.
If you're the person on the salesfloor, you have two options. Do the job you're being paid to do and sell the car, or work for someone else who you feel has better practices/products. But here, you can get into some more layers of complexity. What if the underinflated tires are the *only* issue with that paticular vehicle, where the other products have known issues with exploding transmissions in 25% of their vehicles? Then you're dealing with a lesser-of-evils issue.
But that's taking that metaphor out pretty far. Basically google doesn't validate because they don't have to to get/make/keep customers. Are you going to jump ship and use a different search engine exlcusively based on it validating? I doubt it, and so do they.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:15 pm
by superdezign
Everah wrote:If I had one gripe about Google, that is it. And how in their navigation, when you click on the Google Home link (if there is one) it often times opens a new window. That kinda sucks.
Yeah, the first time they pulled that whole target="_blank" thing on me, I began to start noticing that the Google developers weren't perfect.
I think it's a mesh of different programming styles
not coming together as one.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:21 pm
by superdezign
ReverendDexter wrote:But that's taking that metaphor out pretty far. Basically google doesn't validate because they don't have to to get/make/keep customers. Are you going to jump ship and use a different search engine exlcusively based on it validating? I doubt it, and so do they.
Oooh! Game, set, and match!