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An Idea!

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:55 am
by kertz
Hi all,
Well there has been something stirring inside my brain for a long time. Its an idea on creating a community of developers but with a difference! :)

I'll give a brief about it...

It will be a place for developers to share their new opensource project proposals, create a team and host the files. I mean if you've got an idea you'll post it, and the community will discuss about it. If the community accepts it you'll be given time to create a team out of the community members and start coding. Every project will be given a seperate space.

The open-source community has given us all it can offer and we've got to pay them back, so lets do the way we can...

What you all think about this idea? If anyone is interested let me know. I thought this will be a great place to discuss about this...

Thanks :D

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:35 am
by matthijs
Could you explain what is different about this idea compared to existing places? For example, the devnetwork is already a large community and place were people share ideas, start projects, etc. Practical issues like hosting files are most often not the problem (sourceforge, googlecode, people's servers, etc).

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:44 am
by kertz
well its true there are communities but the one I'm thinking is to create a place for deveopers who work on software development. Here people concentrate on problems they face during programming, they just comehere to solve their problems. But in my idea we can find people who are ready to spend their time in creating something beneficial for the community and all I wish is unite them.

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:01 am
by feyd
We're perfectly suited for such things.

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:50 am
by The Phoenix
kertz wrote:well its true there are communities but the one I'm thinking is to create a place for deveopers who work on software development. Here people concentrate on problems they face during programming, they just comehere to solve their problems. But in my idea we can find people who are ready to spend their time in creating something beneficial for the community and all I wish is unite them.
That has already occurred several times here on dev net. Swiftmailer comes immediately to mind, as does Maugrim's impressive open_id for php, and Feyd's native php sha2 classes. All of them spawned from discussions of needs, and a strong developer stepped forward to fill that need. They generated projects, and (in some cases) had contributions from the community that helped move them forward.

In many ways, its better that the solution doesn't restrict people to a particular set of solutions (hosting, bug tracking, etc) because I suspect we wouldn't have all the projects we do have.

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:58 am
by Maugrim_The_Reaper
I think the market has moved on. I remember a day when Sourceforge was the start of end of a project. Now hosting is so ridiculously cheap and multi-featured that I can spend as little €9.99 or less a month and get all sorts of development tools, install my own Sourceforge busting bug/issue tracker and run riot. I can even throw around a whole XP process on cheap hosting without much trouble.

Sourceforge hasn't much to beat that except as probably the most publicised high-ranking distribution point for open source projects (uber Google pagerank to all registered projects!).

I think Devnetwork itself is an online hotspot of creativity anyway. Our wee community have produced quite a collection of PHP cool things - PHP native SHA256 class, Swiftmailer, HTMLPurifier, and even my own teething OpenID 2.0 Library (openidforphp), and others I don't personally use as often as these. One day this forum will rule PHP open source solutions :twisted:. We are infiltrating the community with every passing day.

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:10 pm
by wei
you can't beat sourceforge for file mirroring though, can save you lots of bandwidth costs

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:55 pm
by Zoxive
I am actually working on something along the lines of this currently.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:12 am
by Josh1billion
Sounds like a pretty cool idea. Good luck to you if you decide to go through with it. 8)

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:03 am
by Kieran Huggins
Many hosts make mirroring/bandwidth concerns a thing of the past... Dreamhost comes to mind, but there are plenty of others. Worry about your limits if/when you break those, they're huge.

@Mr Reaper: Dude. This must have happened while I was away, I'm super impressed! I should expect this by now, everything you do is gold 8)

Rock on.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:43 am
by Christopher
Maugrim_The_Reaper wrote:I think Devnetwork itself is an online hotspot of creativity anyway. Our wee community have produced quite a collection of PHP cool things - PHP native SHA256 class, Swiftmailer, HTMLPurifier, and even my own teething OpenID 2.0 Library (openidforphp), and others I don't personally use as often as these. One day this forum will rule PHP open source solutions :twisted:. We are infiltrating the community with every passing day.
One thing that is missing is some sort of collaborative design tool. If you look at the discussions mentioned above or the Zend Framework proposals wiki as examples, you will see how really clunky and crappy the current tools are.

Now imagine a shared design/development tool that created a collaborative TDD RAD system using a threaded forum style web interface. And imagine if it allowed selected code developed though collaborative TDD to be moved directly into the project source tree. You could execute scripts in the discussion, and it could also run unit tests and encouraged TDD. And it allowed highlighted parts of the discussion to be moved directly into the documentation. Or conversely, allowed code or documentation to be checked-out to a discussion thread, refactored collaboratively, and then committed.

Now that would be interesting.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:57 am
by kertz
Anyway I'm going to give it a try... I'll create a site for the sole purpose of it... I'm not going to challenge SF, I just wish to do it... Hope you understand! :D

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:47 pm
by Kieran Huggins
So, like, an SVN plugin for phpBB?

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:04 pm
by Josh1billion
Kieran Huggins wrote:Many hosts make mirroring/bandwidth concerns a thing of the past... Dreamhost comes to mind, but there are plenty of others. Worry about your limits if/when you break those, they're huge.
8O 8O 8O

After reading your post, I checked Dreamhost out.. and wow! $7.95/month for 1.4 TB of bandwidth. That's quite amazing... thanks for the heads-up. Any others you could recommend? (via PM if you think this is straying too far off-topic, or as a reply as it could help others). Hint to others interested in Dreamhost: http://www.retailmenot.com has a bunch of coupon codes, even one that takes $97 off of your bill.. which is about the cost of a year of hosting when you pre-pay two years. Very nice. :) My web-based RPG could support around a million active users with 1.4 TB monthly bandwidth.. so it looks like bandwidth won't be much of a problem after all.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:14 pm
by feyd
This thread will not turn into "recommend-a-host." Take it elsewhere, please.