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Photoshop Extended Edition, 25 new programs installed!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:37 am
by swiftouch
So I installed Photoshop Extended Edition last night on a trial basis. According to REVO uninstaller, it installed no less than 25+ new programs! (not listed under windows add/remove programs)
Adobe anchor service,adobe panels, type support,extended script,asset services,anchor service,CMAPs, version cue, update mngr,stock photos,xmp panels, color Na recommended settings, ja extra settings, winsoft linguistics plugin, linguists cs3,help viewer cs3,adobe fonts all,bridge cs3. bridge start meeting, camera raw4.0,Color - photoshop specific,color common settings, color EU extra settings, default language cs3, device central cs3, help viewer cs3, PDF Library Files, type support
I am stunned. If I actually use more than 5% of CS3 and all of it's features in this lifetime, I'd be surprised.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:53 am
by feyd
Whoopie?

:roll:

Re: Photoshop Extended Edition, 25 new programs installed!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:24 am
by onion2k
swiftouch wrote:If I actually use more than 5% of CS3 and all of it's features in this lifetime, I'd be surprised.
Why are you bothering to install it then? Use Photoshop Elements instead. It's a lot cheaper and does everything necessary for everyone but power users / professional photographers.

I reckon I could get away with using CinePaint or Paint.NET these days. I only use Photoshop out of habit. And I'm still on version 7 of that.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:12 am
by malcolmboston
im still using version 7 as well, but thats mainly due to the fact that later version are ridiculously slow

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:47 am
by pickle
That may sound surprising, but it's not. I would be surprised if a program as big & powerful as Photoshop had everything stored in one .exe file. In my opinion, it's better the way Adobe does it. I don't want the RAW processing algorithms loaded into RAM unless I am processing RAW images. Same with most of the other things those programs are for.

I wouldn't worry about the fact that they're not stored in the Add/Remove Programs panel. It's not necessary to throw information into the Registry in order to make a program able to run - it's just commonly done (too commonly if you ask me). I can almost guarantee that if you uninstall Photoshop, all those little programs will go along with it.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:42 pm
by s.dot
I've never liked the software bloat of PS.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:55 pm
by swiftouch
I was just complaining that PS is bloated. I'm sure there's something someone needs out of each of there little "bloat-lets." What i'm more concerned about is that my brother the photographer complains daily how slow CS3 is. Is this not because of bloat? I too have had the same complaint about PS being slow. Version 7 was the last version that was fast and didn't have that damned stupid 30 character limit crap and add-hyphens-where-spaces-are, filename automation BS, that is default in the CS versions.

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:52 am
by John Cartwright
swiftouch wrote:I was just complaining that PS is bloated. I'm sure there's something someone needs out of each of there little "bloat-lets." What i'm more concerned about is that my brother the photographer complains daily how slow CS3 is. Is this not because of bloat? I too have had the same complaint about PS being slow. Version 7 was the last version that was fast and didn't have that damned stupid 30 character limit crap and add-hyphens-where-spaces-are, filename automation BS, that is default in the CS versions.
Considering the advancements from Photoshop CS to version 7.0, it is completely understandable why it may seem bloated. As such, anyone using Photoshop in a professionally related environment should have the hardware to overcome the bloatness. However, I competely agree with you reguarding some shortcomings of Photoshop CS. Personally, and many others, have made a concious decision to stick with 7.0 for some of those very same reasons.

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:38 am
by feyd
CS3 hasn't been slow at all on my Mac.

I'm only running with a gig of RAM right now.

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:58 pm
by RobertGonzalez
Photoshop CS2 has only been slow for me when I leave it unattended AND leave Firefox open so that FF eats all my system resources. Otherwise it has been very good to me.

I will say this though, Macromedia Fireworks is a darn easy program to use and it offers a lot of built-ins that PS doesn't have, so I am actually starting to use that more at work for graphics stuff.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:10 am
by feyd
I was digging through my news feeds and saw a mentioning of Pixelmator. Looking at it, it looks like a nice, cheap, alternate for typical basic level Photoshop work, all nicely hooked to OS X.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:33 am
by s.dot
it seems to me that gimp for windows is a far overlooked prog for a suitable photoshop alternative

even so, i'll admit I have it and i never use it. probably because of my lack of familiarity with it, which I have only myself to blame for that.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:37 pm
by malcolmboston
scottayy wrote:it seems to me that gimp for windows is a far overlooked prog for a suitable photoshop alternative

even so, i'll admit I have it and i never use it. probably because of my lack of familiarity with it, which I have only myself to blame for that.
Its the GUI that turns me away from it, Photoshop, altought i guess it would be daunting for a newbie, ive just become familiar with it now.

Althought i was reading a while back about a GIMP version with a photoshop interface, however i have not looked into it for a while.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:55 pm
by RobertGonzalez
Not sure it exists still but I recall an issue with a GIMP installation on Windows that involved the setting/editing of the $LANG environment variable.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:10 pm
by swiftouch
GIMP is not an alternative. The user interface leaves much to be desired.