I HATE YOU MICROSOFT
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I HATE YOU MICROSOFT
I had to install windows xp prof. I did not activated at the time I installed it( it was not mine).
I got and alert saying that I had 20 days to activate it, but when I restarted the machine it said that I need it to
activated NOW.What about the 20 days left???
It did not let me use the machine. I had many important stuff there. I ran out and bought a $137 xp prof licence.
I activated it and was able to work the whole day.
NOW, when I turn on the machine again it says that the copy of windows need to be activated ( what the hell, I just did that).
I said fine, lets activated again, but when I click it says that the copy of windows is already activated , that I am fine, and then send
me to the login window again. So basically it is in a loop.
What kind of <span style='color:blue' title='I'm naughty, are you naughty?'>smurf</span> is this? first it says the it need to be activated and then it says that is already active.
JUNK, JUNK, I HATE YOU MICROSOFT I HOPE YOU DIE, DIE, DIE......
I got and alert saying that I had 20 days to activate it, but when I restarted the machine it said that I need it to
activated NOW.What about the 20 days left???
It did not let me use the machine. I had many important stuff there. I ran out and bought a $137 xp prof licence.
I activated it and was able to work the whole day.
NOW, when I turn on the machine again it says that the copy of windows need to be activated ( what the hell, I just did that).
I said fine, lets activated again, but when I click it says that the copy of windows is already activated , that I am fine, and then send
me to the login window again. So basically it is in a loop.
What kind of <span style='color:blue' title='I'm naughty, are you naughty?'>smurf</span> is this? first it says the it need to be activated and then it says that is already active.
JUNK, JUNK, I HATE YOU MICROSOFT I HOPE YOU DIE, DIE, DIE......
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Re: I HATE YOU MICROSOFT
Although I dislike microsoft and it's "activation" methodology (try changing your hardware to a few times) the above quote says it all. Effectively you were initially using a "pirate copy". Whilst I appreciate this was probably done in a rush, without the requirement of needing to "activate" it would you honestly gone out and brought yourself a valid copy ?yacahuma wrote:I had to install windows xp prof. I did not activated at the time I installed it( it was not mine).
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Re: I HATE YOU MICROSOFT
Tottaly disagree. I don't see how this is "pirate copy" is the problem really. The thing is this "OS" did lie twice... he has to activate in 15days (yeah right) + after "successful activation" it asks for key again. This is the frustrating thing. If it notices pirate copy and says.... no way using me. period.....then this would be perfectly ok.CoderGoblin wrote:Although I dislike microsoft and it's "activation" methodology (try changing your hardware to a few times) the above quote says it all. Effectively you were initially using a "pirate copy". Whilst I appreciate this was probably done in a rush, without the requirement of needing to "activate" it would you honestly gone out and brought yourself a valid copy ?yacahuma wrote:I had to install windows xp prof. I did not activated at the time I installed it( it was not mine).
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It is very frustrating to go out and hear things along the lines of "Linux is too hard, and I didn't pay for Windows anyway". And "not paying" encompasses both pirated and preinstalled copies. It seems like people don't think about the software cost at all when they buy a new system; that was just the price of the hardware, and the software came with it for free! Also, I don't know anyone besides myself that actually cares that their software is legal (I used to not, but that changed while I was in college). It also utterly annoys me that somehow .doc is the text format of choice (I despise html email, too, but that's a different rant).
I admit, there are things that I do like about Microsoft Products. I actually do prefer Excel to OOo Calc. (though that could be due to my much greater experience with the former). I find that all the things I hate about Word are the default settings for Writer (I hate hate HATE autocorrection! Damnit, stop converting anything that looks like a web address to a $#*&ing hyperlink! And fer chissakes, stop turning my *-preceded sentences into bulleted lists!) though with Writer I at least have a chance of changing it. It's really nice that I can drag'n'drop just about anything from anywhere into any other MS program, and it knows what to do with it. However, I also understand that MS Office costs $300+, and I can't afford that. So I use OOo.
Wait.. what was I talking about?
I admit, there are things that I do like about Microsoft Products. I actually do prefer Excel to OOo Calc. (though that could be due to my much greater experience with the former). I find that all the things I hate about Word are the default settings for Writer (I hate hate HATE autocorrection! Damnit, stop converting anything that looks like a web address to a $#*&ing hyperlink! And fer chissakes, stop turning my *-preceded sentences into bulleted lists!) though with Writer I at least have a chance of changing it. It's really nice that I can drag'n'drop just about anything from anywhere into any other MS program, and it knows what to do with it. However, I also understand that MS Office costs $300+, and I can't afford that. So I use OOo.
Wait.. what was I talking about?
Linux has pretty much always, and will most likely continue to be, the "power users" OS. Windows will maintain it's stranglehold on computers for the mere sake that 9 times out of 10, when someone wants a computer, they run to a retailer and buy one, such as a Dell, HP, Sony, etc. The software comes preinstalled, so why take the time to learn something new when there is Windows and Office ready and waiting? No one wants to build their own computer (the average person wouldn't have a clue where to begin), nor do they even know what parts they need.
Plus, Linux has it's share of drawbacks as well. Adoption being the foremost. What software developer in their right mind would make a Linux variant of their product first and foremost? None that want to make money. Linux is too rarely used for any good software to be on it as of yet (there are good apps, but tell me this, if it was purchased software, would it not be a million times better?).
Every OS has people that have issues with it from the get go. You just don't head about it as often with Linux because of the relative number of users compared to Windows. Say out of 1000 people, 100 have major issues with Windows, but out of only 100 people, only 10 have major issues with Linux. Either way, it's still 10% of that userbase, but you will be more likely to hear a voice from the 100 people than the 10 people.
Plus, Linux has it's share of drawbacks as well. Adoption being the foremost. What software developer in their right mind would make a Linux variant of their product first and foremost? None that want to make money. Linux is too rarely used for any good software to be on it as of yet (there are good apps, but tell me this, if it was purchased software, would it not be a million times better?).
Every OS has people that have issues with it from the get go. You just don't head about it as often with Linux because of the relative number of users compared to Windows. Say out of 1000 people, 100 have major issues with Windows, but out of only 100 people, only 10 have major issues with Linux. Either way, it's still 10% of that userbase, but you will be more likely to hear a voice from the 100 people than the 10 people.
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The "pretty much always, and will most likely continue to" statement is simply not true -- in both directions. It is only recently that a major vendor, Dell, sold pre-installed Linux. Same with the recent announcements of hardware companies like AMD finally opensourcing their drivers. The onslaught is slow but there is only good news on the Linux side. The savings by the hardware companies for using Linux, in both cash and opportunities, are passing the cash and promotions that Microsoft has provided.TheMoose wrote:Linux has pretty much always, and will most likely continue to be, the "power users" OS. Windows will maintain it's stranglehold on computers for the mere sake that 9 times out of 10, when someone wants a computer, they run to a retailer and buy one, such as a Dell, HP, Sony, etc.
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Yes, manufacturer and retail support for Linux is growing, but consumer adoption is not. The average person has no desire to learn new things when their current setup works just fine for their standards. I'm not saying that Linux is not growing to a legitimate competitor, I'm just saying that chances are that it will not see the market reach that people want.arborint wrote:The "pretty much always, and will most likely continue to" statement is simply not true -- in both directions. It is only recently that a major vendor, Dell, sold pre-installed Linux. Same with the recent announcements of hardware companies like AMD finally opensourcing their drivers. The onslaught is slow but there is only good news on the Linux side. The savings by the hardware companies for using Linux, in both cash and opportunities, are passing the cash and promotions that Microsoft has provided.TheMoose wrote:Linux has pretty much always, and will most likely continue to be, the "power users" OS. Windows will maintain it's stranglehold on computers for the mere sake that 9 times out of 10, when someone wants a computer, they run to a retailer and buy one, such as a Dell, HP, Sony, etc.
Whilst they have about an icicles hope in hell of winning, the EU are moving to stop computers being sold with MS bundled. The likely outcome will be that nothing will change, with a "you'll have to pay extra for windows" in a close second, but they are at least recognising that MS do have a massive stranglehold on the market.TheMoose wrote:Linux has pretty much always, and will most likely continue to be, the "power users" OS. Windows will maintain it's stranglehold on computers for the mere sake that 9 times out of 10, when someone wants a computer, they run to a retailer and buy one, such as a Dell, HP, Sony, etc. The software comes preinstalled, so why take the time to learn something new when there is Windows and Office ready and waiting? No one wants to build their own computer (the average person wouldn't have a clue where to begin), nor do they even know what parts they need.
Mind you, it's about the only good thing I have yet to see come from the EU.....
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People will adopt it when it comes pre-installed on hardware and does what they need to do cheaper. The first major manufacturer to pre-install, Dell, has only been doing so for a matter of months. And they don't even customize it for the hardwares -- it is a vanilla install from Ubuntu. Dell is moving toward a customized install. HP and Lenovo will be following soon. And difficult issues like proprietary drivers are steadily being resolved. It is still early days.TheMoose wrote:Yes, manufacturer and retail support for Linux is growing, but consumer adoption is not. The average person has no desire to learn new things when their current setup works just fine for their standards. I'm not saying that Linux is not growing to a legitimate competitor, I'm just saying that chances are that it will not see the market reach that people want.
Even though it seems like Linux has been around a long time, you have to remember that Linux itself does not compete. Linux is a technology that companies use to compete. There is is no razor blade company selling handles behind Linux. Given that, you will not see Linux happen like CP/M or DOS or Windows or OS/2. It just steadily encroaches until it reaches a tipping point. Like it did in routers and NAS ... cell phones are next. Microsoft, like IBM before it, is being pushed to a vertical stack provider and will then need to transition to a services company. There is a reason why the heart of Microsoft has become SharePoint -- not Vista.
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DRM.
Microsoft does what music companies do: although you get the impression you are actually buying something to own it, you're in reality, borrowing it from them because they control your right to use it.
What really needs to happen are universities and schools out there which are paid to support these programs, be stopped and laws set in place where Microsoft can't bribe these institutions with big money to use there POS software. But of course it's "all about the Benjamin's, "and how can you as a department head of these schools turn down millions in bribe money?
People use there office software because Microsoft holds the advantage with the larger wallet. I love professors and teachers and the like who profess to be teaching a student important "informative", career building information. As if learning MS office is an essential part of my education! I can get the same concepts from another office suite. I dont have to learn MS's product to understand what a spreadsheet is for.
In reality we are pawns in a greater game to control the minds and the will of us the people. Microsoft has created a "need" atmosphere around their products through bribes. Once a department head is bribed and remains in that situation they have little motivation to actually use an office suite that does things just as well or better. Thus we continue to pay microsoft millions because their software is "better", because the professor told them so. In reality, Openoffice and others have provided us with equivalent, cheaper, just as functional software.
Leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
Microsoft does what music companies do: although you get the impression you are actually buying something to own it, you're in reality, borrowing it from them because they control your right to use it.
What really needs to happen are universities and schools out there which are paid to support these programs, be stopped and laws set in place where Microsoft can't bribe these institutions with big money to use there POS software. But of course it's "all about the Benjamin's, "and how can you as a department head of these schools turn down millions in bribe money?
People use there office software because Microsoft holds the advantage with the larger wallet. I love professors and teachers and the like who profess to be teaching a student important "informative", career building information. As if learning MS office is an essential part of my education! I can get the same concepts from another office suite. I dont have to learn MS's product to understand what a spreadsheet is for.
In reality we are pawns in a greater game to control the minds and the will of us the people. Microsoft has created a "need" atmosphere around their products through bribes. Once a department head is bribed and remains in that situation they have little motivation to actually use an office suite that does things just as well or better. Thus we continue to pay microsoft millions because their software is "better", because the professor told them so. In reality, Openoffice and others have provided us with equivalent, cheaper, just as functional software.
Leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
In Belgium, the federal government is only allowed to use open standards for documents (ODF), starting in 2008. In the Netherlands, at the moment the government is talking about legislation to make sure all government institutions are going to use open standards and open source software. More and more other public institutions are switching as well.
The same developments can be seen in other countries, like Scandinavia or russia.
So, I think the movement towards open standards and open source is here. It's a (very) slow process, but still.
The same developments can be seen in other countries, like Scandinavia or russia.
So, I think the movement towards open standards and open source is here. It's a (very) slow process, but still.