Anyone else having FF issues of late?

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Everah wrote:My only gripe with FF is memory usage. I have curbed that by spreading the load across four browsers. Anything Ajax intensive goes to Opera. Anything that needs to load fast goes to IE. Anything that I feel doesn't belong in IE, Opera or FF goes to Safari. The rest goes to FF. This keeps FF peak memory usage to a reasonable 250MB by the end of the day.
Seems like a lot of work for nothing. I simply restart firefox a few times a day.
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Thanks for the tip Josh10^9, it's mostly laziness on my part, but I'll get around to it eventually :-)

@Everah: Dude... doesn't 4 browsers take up a smurf-load of memory all on it's own?
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I'm not familiar with how applications exit when an invalid instruction is encountered by the application layer or CPU. feyd would know the answer to this.

If an application is in the middle of doing something and disappears, it frankly sounds like poor code to me. When I write code, it knows it's current state and all possible failure points at all times.

I love firefox and it's my browser of choice. It looks great and works great but I think if you were to take a look at it from the otherside, from a coding perspective, you might realize that it sucks. Hell, didn't it come from the Netscape codebase that was mangled by AOL? Uck. I think the developers have a lot of work ahead of them as far as cleaning it up goes. It's not really surprising that it has all kinds of memory leaks and is slow. Some parts of it don't even support multi threading yet.

Anyway, this is probably why it gives you the opportunity to restore your session after a hard crash. The developers using it probably were driven mad by it crashing because they would lose their login session when they were trying to fix bugs in bugzilla.
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Kieran Huggins wrote:@Everah: Dude... doesn't 4 browsers take up a smurf-load of memory all on it's own?
Remarkably, I can get away with four browsers for less than the cost of an open FF at the end of the day. I know it doesn't seem right, but I have to really try to get Opera to approach 150MB. IE really never goes beyond 40MB and Safari, when used how I use it, never touches 50MB. In fact, for me, all three other browsers start at about 17MB. FF starts at about 50MB. So spreading the load over all of them has actually saved me resource on my machine.

I know it doesn't sound right, but for some reason it works on my computer at work.
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Once I wrote a JavaScript-based application which consumed more and more memory over the course of its runtime under Firefox. I guess there might be some issues with its garbage collector, which doesn't free all the occupied memory, even though a page refresh has been issued.
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I would agree with that. I know JS intensive sites have been known to take FF to its knees in my machine.
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Post by ASDen »

Anything Ajax intensive goes to Opera
I wouldn't agree to that anything really Ajax Intensive is send to Safari i've tested this in terms of memory & Cpu Usage
IE really never goes beyond 40MB
Really..... Just put it in the Ajax intensive mentioned and watch when testing IE had the Biggest Memory leaks compared to FF,Opera,Safari
I would agree with that. I know JS intensive sites have been known to take FF to its knees in my machine.
I would say this twice , when tested it took a constant 50% Cpu usage (in a heavy JS)

Before you ask these tests were made using my Threading/Ajax Class i've wrote a post about it

at last i usually use FF & Opera and use Opera for known slow sites and reading Mail :D
and of course FF crashes from time to time (but in my case with about 100~130 tabs )
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It wasn't until recently that I noticed I was having problems in FF 2.0.0.7. I just got the upgrade message tonight, so I upgraded to 0.8 and within a minute or so, it croaked. Funny things, each time it is a different DLL for me.

So I relaunched it in Safe Mode and have had no issued with it at all. I am going to disable all of my extensions and themes in a bit, the turn them on one by one and see which one is causing the problem. That might help.
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Everah wrote:My only gripe with FF is memory usage. I have curbed that by spreading the load across four browsers. Anything Ajax intensive goes to Opera. Anything that needs to load fast goes to IE. Anything that I feel doesn't belong in IE, Opera or FF goes to Safari. The rest goes to FF. This keeps FF peak memory usage to a reasonable 250MB by the end of the day.
I have this same "gripe." Often times, I've seen it in the 400k usage area at the end of the day.

It's my theory that with all these extensions, FF takes more memory. So I tried this experiment where I disabled half of them, and FF seemed to use less(of course). I wonder however, that by making new windows, I'm even creating more memory usage because then there are X number of times more that FF has to open and use those extension.

My brother complains about crashes. I've never had a problem. I have started using IE more because of the memory issues with FF. Something is getting away from these programmers, and they need to find a fix FAST.
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I've had trouble with FF freezing/crashing on Ubuntu 7. I dont' know why but the repo version always seems to be problematic. I usually download it from the mozilla site and install in /opt. I have had very little trouble with this version. But FF is a pig.. I think it was built on memhog
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I launched FF in safe mode yesterday at work and memory usage never went above 50M no matter how many tabs or windows I opened.

I am certain there is something happening with the extensions. Same for the crashes. I haven't had a crash on the machine I am using to write this in over 36 hours and FF has been open the entire time. I disable extensions before this run and FF is working great at the moment. I am currently at 96M memory usage, a far cry from the 250M I would normally expect after leaving it alone like this for so long.
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