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Re: What editor do you use? 2008
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:29 am
by jayshields
It seems like no one used NetBeans - I've been using that exclusively for a few months now. I have a few gripes but nothing to stop it being my favourite at the moment.
Re: What editor do you use? 2008
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:56 am
by omniuni
I close folds with "left-click".
The problem with time is what I consider "getting started with Vim". I can't justify going from all the features I know how to use in Kate, to being able to type or exit/save in Vim. Yes, that's "getting started", but it does not become useful until I can toggle line numbers and wordwrapping, find, find and replace, switch between open documents easily, and get used to the Vim equivalents of other features I am used to in Kate. It will take me quite a while to do that. So, I stick to Kate.
Re: What editor do you use? 2008
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:52 am
by ehh
Weirdan wrote:
I've just tried that... it's not really useful. Couldn't even close a fold with 'zc'.
Sorry to hear you didn't like it. I add more features regularly, but this is something I do when I have the time, so the development speed varies.
The reason for zc not being supported is simply that I don't use folds myself. I guess it should be quite easy to add, though. I'll put it on the wish list.
Were there any other reasons you didn't like it? If you find bugs or have wishes I'd love to hear them.
- Erlend
Re: What editor do you use? 2008
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:32 pm
by Weirdan
ehh wrote:
Were there any other reasons you didn't like it? If you find bugs or have wishes I'd love to hear them.
Well,
ehh, I'm not that genuinely interested in vi(m) emulation in kate since what I use is true vim. By definition those emulation layers/keyboard bindings packs/you name it are mostly aimed at people who
want to use <substitute host editor name here>, but can't easily give up old habits. Thats not me - I'm pretty happy with vim as it is.
However here are the things I noticed:
- 'set ai' in command mode didn't work as expected
- when typing 'set' in command mode kate pops up an autocomplete widget with 'set-auto-indent' amongst other entries. Selecting this entry resulted in 'Error: Unknown command 'set-auto-indent'
- Ctrl+V in normal mode didn't start block selection mode. Instead it acted like 'paste from clipboard' - very annoying. However this could be peculiarity of my config (vista =RDP=> vista =SSH=> vmware linux image. Kate was started in virtual machine with x server running on second vista. Both vistas have ctrl <-> caps keys remapped).
Kate 3.3.4 (KDE 4.3.4) 4.3.4-1 from Debian/sid running on Linux virtual-debian 2.6.32-trunk-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Dec 24 07:09:31 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Re: What editor do you use? 2008
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:44 pm
by omniuni
Weirdan wrote:... this could be peculiarity of my config (vista =RDP=> vista =SSH=> vmware linux image. Kate was started in virtual machine with x server running on second vista. Both vistas have ctrl <-> caps keys remapped).[/list]
Kate 3.3.4 (KDE 4.3.4) 4.3.4-1 from Debian/sid running on Linux virtual-debian 2.6.32-trunk-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Dec 24 07:09:31 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Weirdan... wow. Just... wow.
I don't suppose you ever thought of just running Linux and using regular direct SSH? It all tends to work best without Windows in the way.
Re: What editor do you use? 2008
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:27 am
by Weirdan
omniuni wrote:I don't suppose you ever thought of just running Linux and using regular direct SSH? It all tends to work best without Windows in the way.
Been there, done that. Wasn't really satisfied. There's lot of issues easily solved by using such config.
Besides, using virtual machine provides flexibility when changing jobs - you just take your VM with you to the new workplace.
Re: What editor do you use? 2008
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:36 am
by pbs
Macromedia Deamweaver and Editplus
Re: What editor do you use? 2008
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:56 am
by volomike
Hey y'all, hahaha - lol
Does this thread have any meaning any more? I mean, it's the longest thread in history. I have to keep clicking Mark Topics Read in General Discussion like every day because this thread keeps coming back to being unread for me.
Basically you read this thread and see people are using all kinds of editors, and will continue using all kinds of editors, and new editors will appear for eternity that we'll hear about on Twitter or Google Trends.
Meanwhile, the original survey never really changes. It remains with Dreamweaver at the top, followed by a neck-and-neck between Eclipse and Notepad++, but fails to figure out why "Other" remains at a high rate on the chart and doesn't try to add other items to the survey to see if any new trends are occurring.
So, for me, I'm not getting much out of this thread like I thought I would. And now I'm pretty much stuck in my ways with my editor choice (a choice which is irrelevant).

Re: What editor do you use? 2008
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:47 pm
by alex.barylski
I switched from UltraEdit to Eclipse because it had so many cool extensions (FogBugz, MyLyn, SSH, etc). Problem is, Eclipse is rediculously buggy and wonky.
Source folding could be impreoved to match UltraEdit. By default it doesn't fold on curly braces which is really helpful when working with JS and PHP. Intelligent indenting is more of an annoyance most of the times.
I occassionally get really annoying exxceptions too which just further frustrate me. I guess that is what you get for free.
UltraEdit (while not the most extensible) is an incredibly stable editor just a weak IDE. Then the switch from Native Windows interfgaces to some cross platform framework and everything just feels yuck now. So I suppose I will stick with Eclipse. NetBeans editor feels almost identical to Eclipse but the IDE lacks the same extensions as Eclispe so I cannot be bothered persuing that much more.
Eclipse is a pig too, very slow, lags even on my $3K computer with an i7 and tons of RAM, etc...rebuilding the projects and workspaces and generating those TODO task list is nice but takes for ever sometimes...really annoying. At work the editor crawls to such a grind I often have dozens of keystrokes punched in by the time the rendering catches up...also very annoying.
All in all, it's a nice editor for enterprise but would be even better if it wasn't so buggy, slow and bloated...for now I will continue using it until I find something better.
I've been thinking of an excuse to learn C# this might be it...find a solid editor and build a better Windows centric open source IDE which is extensible like Eclipse but a fraction of the annoyances.
Cheers,
Alex
Re: What editor do you use? 2008
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:06 pm
by omniuni
PCSpectra, what Java version are you using to run Eclipse, and on what OS? I used to use Eclipse for Java, and although it took some time to get running, I never had any complaints about stability or speed once it was open. I used Sun Java 6 on Ubuntu. I did, however, find that with the default JDK it was unstable. Maybe that's your problem? I ran Eclipse on a Laptop with 2 gigs of ram and a 2 ghz single-core processor, so I think your i7 should squish that into the ground!
I double-checked, and Eclipse is using about 4% of my 3.2 GB of ram. It's not light, but it's not terrible. That said, my IDE of choice, Kate, uses just 8 megabytes of ram, so I guess by that measure, Eclipse is heavy.
Re: What editor do you use? 2008
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:20 pm
by AbraCadaver
Ummm... 2008 < 2010
Re: What editor do you use? 2008
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:10 am
by omniuni
Yeah, this thread has had random spikes of action over the last few months. It's one of those topics that just refuse to die for some odd reason...
Re: What editor do you use? 2008
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:35 pm
by josh
Rather then complaining (and thus bumping the thread)...
posting.php?mode=post&f=6
Re: What editor do you use? 2008
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:48 pm
by omniuni
I wasn't complaining, I'm actually rather amused. Personally, I think we should just start a newer "What IDE..." thread.
Anyway, I discovered Geany last night, it has php function completion, but no networked file support, so back to Kate for now.
Re: What editor do you use? 2008
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:51 pm
by josh
I'm waiting for "class completion" .
Example if I am extending a class and overriding a really long method name, as I typed
protected function doReallyLongFunct..... (it would pop up and complete the rest of the function name as I override it).
Lots of frameworks involve extending some base class. I don't see why this isn't provided in IDEs already, or is it?