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What is the framework?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:42 pm
by phphema
Hai I am new to this forum & PHP, I want to learn PHP from its basics,
Kindly give the full details about framework? (Like what is the framework? type of framework? how to use the framework and etc....)
Re: What is the framework?
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:54 am
by tecktalkcm0391
Everything can be found on
http://www.php.net where the manual is. A good tutorial is
W3School PHP
PHP Manual wrote:What is PHP?
PHP is a widely-used general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for Web development and can be embedded into HTML. If you are new to PHP and want to get some idea of how it works, try the introductory tutorial. After that, check out the online manual, and the example archive sites and some of the other resources available in the links section.
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Re: What is the framework?
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:41 pm
by califdon
phphema wrote:Hai I am new to this forum & PHP, I want to learn PHP from its basics,
Kindly give the full details about framework? (Like what is the framework? type of framework? how to use the framework and etc....)
As the previous responder said, start with the basics. He gave you two excellent references.
A "framework" is a set of methods and libraries to use in advanced PHP development. A beginner should not attempt to learn any framework until they have a solid understanding of basic PHP. Otherwise they will get themselves in WAY over their head.
Re: What is the framework?
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:20 pm
by alex.barylski
A beginner should not attempt to learn any framework until they have a solid understanding of basic PHP. Otherwise they will get themselves in WAY over their head.
I disagree...the sooner the better...otherwise they will undoughtedly develop that napolean complex that drives all experienced developers to waste time and re-invent the wheel.

Re: What is the framework?
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:04 pm
by Eran
I agree with califdon on first having strong fundamentals before trying to use a framework. A framework provides plenty of abstraction which should be used with care - a user should be able to understand the internals from looking at the source.
Re: What is the framework?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:44 am
by Maugrim_The_Reaper
Read a PHP tutorial for the basics and pay special attention to object oriented programming. Then pick a framework and see how it goes. It helps to have heavy experience with PHP before starting a framework, but it's not a requirement. Basic knowledge is often enough to let you get something started framework related.
Same reasons as Hockey states - learning PHP without the enforced good practice of a framework is, in my opinion, a more costly route since it simply delays the inevitable. People learn Rails every day without years of Ruby experience. Same for Django if you're a Python head. Basic language experience as a precondition to anything else is overrated in a world of frameworks
Re: What is the framework?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:45 am
by phphema
Thank You to all for answer to my quest?