Do you accept piracy in terms of education and support?
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Do you accept piracy in terms of education and support?
Hi,
I was just thinking, I was going to support Sybase on my project, but it's paid only. Is piracy acceptable in your opinion, I am using it for education and support purpose. They will get more customers, because of my support.
I was just thinking, I was going to support Sybase on my project, but it's paid only. Is piracy acceptable in your opinion, I am using it for education and support purpose. They will get more customers, because of my support.
Re: Do you accept piracy in terms of education and support?
As a mod here I'm not going to put forward a point of view, but I'd just like to say keep to discussing piracy only. Anyone posting links to places to download Sybase will be risking getting a warning or possibly even a ban. That sort of thing is against the rules.
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Re: Do you accept piracy in terms of education and support?
Of course that's not the point of this thread. The point was the ability to debug your script on a software that costs too much for a poor developer.onion2k wrote:As a mod here I'm not going to put forward a point of view, but I'd just like to say keep to discussing piracy only. Anyone posting links to places to download Sybase will be risking getting a warning or possibly even a ban. That sort of thing is against the rules.
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Re: Do you accept piracy in terms of education and support?
Piracy is wrong plain and simple. If the original authors don't wish to give something away for free thats there loss, not yours.
You could contact their support and ask if they have a sandbox version for testing purposes.
You could contact their support and ask if they have a sandbox version for testing purposes.
Re: Do you accept piracy in terms of education and support?
It's rarely the case (e.g. RIAA).PCSpectra wrote:Piracy is wrong plain and simple. If the original authors don't wish to give something away for free thats there loss, not yours.
There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't
Re: Do you accept piracy in terms of education and support?
Yes it is obviously illegal. Maybe if we want to be a contributor we have to talk to the owner if he/she could give a low rate or a discount. It depends on the agreement.
Re: Do you accept piracy in terms of education and support?
kaisellgren wasn't asking if it were legal, but if it were ethical ("Do you accept ...")
Since moral is what dictates the law, and not the other way around, I believe it's up to the people to decide what's ethical (and if it contradicts the current law, to put an effort to change the law, but that's another point)
In that light, yes, I think you have an ethical basis for your case, especially if you won't actually use the software in question for production, but only for testing your code.
Since moral is what dictates the law, and not the other way around, I believe it's up to the people to decide what's ethical (and if it contradicts the current law, to put an effort to change the law, but that's another point)
In that light, yes, I think you have an ethical basis for your case, especially if you won't actually use the software in question for production, but only for testing your code.
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Re: Do you accept piracy in terms of education and support?
Thanks for your reply, and yes that was exactly what I was asking for.Mordred wrote:kaisellgren wasn't asking if it were legal, but if it were ethical ("Do you accept ...")
Since moral is what dictates the law, and not the other way around, I believe it's up to the people to decide what's ethical (and if it contradicts the current law, to put an effort to change the law, but that's another point)
In that light, yes, I think you have an ethical basis for your case, especially if you won't actually use the software in question for production, but only for testing your code.
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Re: Do you accept piracy in terms of education and support?
Agreed. I have no problem using an illegit version of a program, inorder for my application to provide accurate support.Mordred wrote:In that light, yes, I think you have an ethical basis for your case, especially if you won't actually use the software in question for production, but only for testing your code.
Just make sure that it stays 100% internal, and not accessable by the outside world.