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Windows VS Linux
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:37 am
by kamalnisa
Hi
I have used both Windows and Linux. But I strongly prefer Linux. But unfortunately I cant use Linux for my desktop machine. What do u guys think about Linux.
Re: Windows VS Linux
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:39 pm
by alex.barylski
I like them both for different reasons.
Windows is easy to use and get things installed and up and running but it comes at the cost of flexibility. Windows applications always try and solve every concievable problem.
Linux CLI on the other hand is the ideal developer tool. I love how each binary is specialized and just works, piping togather multiple commands to form a end result is awesome. If at anytime I dislike one tool, I can drop it from the tool chain and replace it with another -- although I haven't yet had to do this it can be done easily.
Linux is a PITA when you need to setup dependencies that your package manager can't or doesn't understand. Windows is a PITA when it crashes because of a memory leak or some other reason.
Windows is annoying when you get spyware from visiting a malicious site.
I haven't used Ubuntu in ages I prefer my Windows for window environments...Linux is unbeatable for everything else.
Cheers,
Alex
Re: Windows VS Linux
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:45 pm
by onion2k
Are you really interested, or are you just trying to get the links in your signature into lots of threads? Coz that's pointless ... Google won't see them. If you're trying to spam us please don't bother.
To answer the question though I like Linux. I have Windows Vista, XP, Ubuntu and DSLinux on my laptop and I reckon Ubuntu comes a very close second to Vista as my preferred OS. And I only really like Vista because I'm used to it.
Re: Windows VS Linux
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:48 pm
by alex.barylski
I'm not sure which one of us you are addressing, but seeing as the OP doesn't have links in his/her sig...I only assume you mean me.
I really hope your not refering to me.

Re: Windows VS Linux
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:23 am
by onion2k
PCSpectra wrote:I'm not sure which one of us you are addressing, but seeing as the OP doesn't have links in his/her sig...I only assume you mean me.
I really hope your not refering to me.

He had links when I posted.
But now he doesn't I'm going to say I meant you all along.

Re: Windows VS Linux
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:02 am
by stufflance
Windows is more user friendly. Newbies can get accusomed to it very easily. but less stable and less secure. But linux is more stable and more secure.
Re: Windows VS Linux
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:07 am
by onion2k
stufflance wrote:Windows is more user friendly. Newbies can get accusomed to it very easily. but less stable and less secure. But linux is more stable and more secure.
Ubuntu is actually beginning to approach the user friendliness of Windows. The biggest "problem" with it is simply that it's not Windows ... so all the conventions that we've learnt don't apply. If you gave a child a computer with it on they'd probably learn it just as quickly as Vista or XP.
Re: Windows VS Linux
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:17 pm
by JayBird
I removed the signature from the OP
Re: Windows VS Linux
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:25 pm
by alex.barylski
onion2k wrote:But now he doesn't I'm going to say I meant you all along.quote]
Haha...guilty as charged.
but less stable and less secure. But linux is more stable and more secure.
Subjective. A fresh Windows installation has rarely let me down. Windows applications are usually monolithic relative to Linux applications which are very dependent on other depdendencies.
Small tools usually have less bugs by nature of being small and less complex, in theory this leads to more stable software but now you are also at the whim of many indivudal developers with possibly different experience levels, etc.
I think Windows is insecure because it's more widely used and therefore more expoitable, I don't think either (intrinsically) is more or less stable or insecure than the other. With the exception being the authentication layer built into the Linux Kernel, which was lacking in many Windows version for home desltops.
My point is, when both are properly configured and patched, there is no reason both cannot run stable and secure. It's more the experience of the admin than the software itself, so pointing fingers at Windows in this regard is not fare.
The biggest "problem" with it is simply that it's not Windows ... so all the conventions that we've learnt don't apply. If you gave a child a computer with it on they'd probably learn it just as quickly as Vista or XP.
Agreed.
Re: Windows VS Linux
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:35 pm
by Syntac
I've found that one of the things Windows has going for it is an almost complete lack of dependency hell. However, Linux is free and easy to customize. Take your pick.
Ark Linux is good for beginners.
Re: Windows VS Linux
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:46 pm
by alex.barylski
It's a catch 22...the dependencies aer what give Linux it's flexibility, which advanced users will always love...for people only interested in getting something to work it's really a PITA.
The more advanced I become in linux the more I appreciate it's flex...but when I'm just learning something like LDAP or postfix I just want it to work out of the box. Postfix is actually really good that way, in that it uses mostly usable defaults so it works pretty muh out of the box.
Re: Windows VS Linux
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:26 pm
by liljester
ive used redhat, bsd, and ubuntu on the *nix side, and server 2000, 2003, and 2008 on the windows side.
for me, server 2008 is the way to go. windows has come a very long way (mmm fastcgi). One of the issues i have with linux is that the packages for each release arent always current, and i dont have the time or desire to fight with all the dependancies required to compile the latest version of php with all the options i want. i can upgrade php in a matter of seconds in windows.. simply copy the .dll files over the existing ones. also i do alot of development with MSSQL as a backend.
that being said, for a php/mysql server ubuntu is great and the price is right.
ive not yet tried a core install of a server 2008 and php, but its probably not too far away

Re: Windows VS Linux
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:26 pm
by VladSun
liljester wrote:One of the issues i have with linux is that the packages for each release arent always current, and i dont have the time or desire to fight with all the dependancies required to compile the latest version of php with all the options i want. i can upgrade php in a matter of seconds in windows.. simply copy the .dll files over the existing ones.
???
It sounds more like a FUD than an experience.
If "all the options" are simply PHP-MSSQL-support don't blame Linux for that
