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Thoughts on IDE's??

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I am new to PHP, but eager to become a "pro" ASAP!

What does everyone think about using an IDE with PHP?

What tools do you use?

I installed Eclipse PDT All-In-One on my MacBook. I am getting the hang of it, but it still doesn't seem as user-friendly as the code editors/IDE I'm used to in the Microsoft world. *sigh*

It is also frustrating in that there aren't any active and dedicated forums on Eclipse PDT, so I am hoping my fellow PHP developers can help guide me.

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I know there are a few frustrated Mac Eclipse users around here -- Matthijs is one. I hear there are problems with Subversion on the Mac too. There is also a very long What editor do you use? thread with peoples opinions about editors and tools. You may want to search these forums and see what you find (post your results! ;))
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arborint wrote:I know there are a few frustrated Mac Eclipse users around here -- Matthijs is one. I hear there are problems with Subversion on the Mac too. There is also a very long What editor do you use? thread with peoples opinions about editors and tools. You may want to search these forums and see what you find (post your results! ;))
Is my suspicion that Macs aren't so hot after all coming true? (Or is Eclipse not-so-hot?!)

I have done quite a bit of Access/VBA, and I know the IDE/Debugger that comes with MS Access has been a life-saver for me, so I was looking for something similar with PHP for Mac.

My Eclipse PDT supposedly has a "Debugger", but I don't see how it works... :(


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I'm not aware of subversion issues on the mac ;) Most of SitePoint use macs and we're all svn users :)

Never used Eclipse on OS X though.... TextMate for me.
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I have no money, so I use TextWrangler.
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I am new to PHP, but eager to become a "pro" ASAP!
Enthusiasm = good thing, wishful thinking = not reality. :P
What does everyone think about using an IDE with PHP?
Your new to PHP...I would strongly suggest a simple editor that grows with you...I use UltraEdit now for about 4-5 years...I love it it still lets me do everything I need to do.

It's a small fee but the editor is un-matched by any other. Column selection, tabify, untabsify, excellent source folding, unlimited syntax colorizing, etc.

I have used dozens of editors, both as a developer and as a client and honestly it's simply the best I have ever seen, second only to maybe MS visual studio which did it's job for Visual C++ better than anything I have seen before.
installed Eclipse PDT All-In-One on my MacBook. I am getting the hang of it, but it still doesn't seem as user-friendly as the code editors/IDE I'm used to in the Microsoft world. *sigh*
I can't even imagine using eclispse...it's so bloated...

I wanted something light weight like notepad that had tab support and advanced colorizing. UltraEdit kicks @$$ in this regard.
Is my suspicion that Macs aren't so hot after all coming true? (Or is Eclipse not-so-hot?!)
Both. :P
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I'm on a Mac, so it doesn't look like UltraEdit will help...
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IDEs are for losers! Go download TextWrangler.
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Syntac wrote:I have no money, so I use TextWrangler.
What is the difference between BBEdit and TextWrangler?

Don't you find a need for a Debugging Module also??


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Re: Thoughts on IDE's??

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BBEdit has a few more features (which you probably don't need), but it costs money.

Debugging module? What's that? :P

Also, I have yet to encounter a single problem with Subversion.
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Syntac wrote:BBEdit has a few more features (which you probably don't need), but it costs money.

Debugging module? What's that? :P

Also, I have yet to encounter a single problem with Subversion.
It is what new - read wimpy - PHP newbies rely on to figure out bugs!

You mention Subversion and you have a Mac avatar... Have you ever used Eclipse PDT on a Mac??


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Re: Thoughts on IDE's??

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No, I've never used Eclipse. IDEs just get in my way. :)
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