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Disappointed with PHP editors.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:25 pm
by kaisellgren
Hello,

I'm very disappointed with the PHP editors around us. I've tried Zend Studio, phpDesigner, ActiveState Komodo and NuSphere PhpEd. None of them suited for me. :(

Zend Studio simply forces me to use their own coding style. I have to disable all automations in order to be able to write my "own" code. This is stupid since automations are some of those features I look for in an IDE. Why to indent myself? Why to type everything myself? ZS just couldn't do it. I contact them and asked for help, but we came into one result: no solution.

phpDesigner looked great. It let me use my own coding style, provided automations, great and fast syntax highlighting, et cetera, but it does not have code folding :banghead: -- dude what were they thinking? Do they really think I'm happy to scroll through a class of 500 lines? Of course I need folding to hide parts of code I'm not working on. Soon I found myself feeling like stabbed due to the lack of code folding. I left phpDesigner. I feel no harm feelings about that.

ActiveState Komodo. Well, that's a very nice IDE with code folding and all. But there are so many small annoyances that makes me pull my hairs! I've been using it since last two months (or 1½ months). But now I'm done. I'm looking at the MySQL manual with Fx and coding a little snippet. Everytime I switch back from Firefox to Komodo, it has lost its cursor position 8O -- it has millions of similar-like small annoynaces that can't be called features so you must test the IDE before knowing whether it's capable of doing something.

NuSphere PhpEd was also very promising, but it wasn't supporting my coding style properly among with some other problems that I do not remember anymore, because it has been a while when I last time used it.

If anyone is interested, here's a simple demonstration how do I write code blocks:

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I am using Notepad2. Still. :roll:

Re: Disappointed with PHP editors.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:00 pm
by andyhoneycutt
What OS are you running Komodo under? It runs quite flawlessly on my Mac OS 10.5.6
I used it under Debian for a while with limited success but there have also been two major releases of Komodo Edit since then, both of which I've been working under the Mac OS with.

-Andy

Re: Disappointed with PHP editors.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:05 pm
by kaisellgren
andyhoneycutt wrote:What OS are you running Komodo under? It runs quite flawlessly on my Mac OS 10.5.6
I used it under Debian for a while with limited success but there have also been two major releases of Komodo Edit since then, both of which I've been working under the Mac OS with.

-Andy
Microsoft Windows Vista™ x64 Ultimate.

Re: Disappointed with PHP editors.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:07 pm
by Eran
Did you try Zend Studio for Eclipse? if so you might be interested to know that ver 5.5.1 is still available for download. It runs much faster and more stable, and has far less intrusive features. I still use it since ZS for eclipse sucks major ass.

Re: Disappointed with PHP editors.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:14 pm
by kaisellgren
pytrin wrote:Did you try Zend Studio for Eclipse? if so you might be interested to know that ver 5.5.1 is still available for download. It runs much faster and more stable, and has far less intrusive features. I still use it since ZS for eclipse sucks major ass.
Hmm okay I'll give it a shot. Yes the version I tried was pretty new, 6.x something.

Re: Disappointed with PHP editors.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:49 pm
by alex.barylski
UltraEdit is the best IMHO.

Very light weight, highly configurable.

Re: Disappointed with PHP editors.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:51 pm
by s.dot
Lose the bloat, go with Crimson Editor :-D

Re: Disappointed with PHP editors.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:35 pm
by jayshields
I'm still on EditPlus :) If you ever work with other coders they'll probably hate your current style, so it might be better for you to change yours now anyway.

Re: Disappointed with PHP editors.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:09 pm
by kaisellgren
jayshields wrote:I'm still on EditPlus :) If you ever work with other coders they'll probably hate your current style, so it might be better for you to change yours now anyway.
I'm not working with other coders. That's the fact. :)

Re: Disappointed with PHP editors.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:17 pm
by Benjamin
Bluefish || Eclipse

I Prefer Bluefish but last I used it, it didn't have built in SVN integration.

Re: Disappointed with PHP editors.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:45 am
by VladSun
NetBeans IDE with PHP support :)
I'm trying to switch to it and stop using PHPDesigner. I think it's good though :)

Re: Disappointed with PHP editors.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:05 am
by Chris Corbyn
I don't think I could use an IDE with "PHP" in the name :P I prefer a more generic IDE (like netbeans). I don't like Java AWT stuff much though -- a bit too heavy.

Re: Disappointed with PHP editors.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:35 am
by jaoudestudios
kaisellgren wrote:Microsoft Windows Vista™ x64 Ultimate.
Nooooooooooooooooo, come on, seriously, duuuude! Windows? and Vista??? WTF?!?! I thought you were alright before this comment :P
Yeah I use Vista for gaming, but I try to keep it quiet!

Notepad++ for windows (at the office) - lightweight and does what it says on the box.

Linux I use Geany - same again, lightweight and does what it says on the box.

Re: Disappointed with PHP editors.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:50 am
by papa
I prefer a basic editor with some coloring. Automations tend to get annoying in the long run (have only experience from Homesite though but still). 8O

Re: Disappointed with PHP editors.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:10 am
by novice4eva
Not a single mention of Macromedia Dreamweaver :roll: