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To create a Symfony or not?
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:46 am
by Kadanis
Hey guys
I've got 2 pretty big projects starting in the next few weeks and have decided to move away from the more
Front-Ahead Design approach

and use a framework.
Symfony was something I'd come across in the past and never really looked into too deeply, but now I've got a running dev server, installed it over Pear and working through the Jobeet tutorial to see how it shapes up.
Just wondered what peoples views were on Symfony. Good or bad, I don't mind. I'm really just looking for peoples experiences and if there are any gaping holes I might run into down the line, don't really want months of development to be wasted.
Cheers in advance
Re: To create a Symfony or not?
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:43 pm
by Theory?
I looked at Symfony, bought the book, read up on it, and I just really don't like it. They've made this RDF so strange it's almost a brand new app in it of itself. You spend so much time making your YAML docs and compiling everything before you ever type a single line of PHP and to me that seems counterproductive. I'm sure some people like it, I just find it way too cumbersome. Also its benchmarks are lackluster at best.
Re: To create a Symfony or not?
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:16 pm
by John Cartwright
Theory? wrote:I looked at Symfony, bought the book, read up on it, and I just really don't like it. They've made this RDF so strange it's almost a brand new app in it of itself. You spend so much time making your YAML docs and compiling everything before you ever type a single line of PHP and to me that seems counterproductive. I'm sure some people like it, I just find it way too cumbersome. Also its benchmarks are lackluster at best.
The last time I tried symphony was a year or so back. I wasn't able to get it installed correctly and gave up on it. I have not looked back since.
Re: To create a Symfony or not?
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:00 pm
by Eran
Try Zend Framework or CakePHP, both are really good (ZF is my preference).
Re: To create a Symfony or not?
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:19 pm
by Chris Corbyn
I've had good experiences with symfony (note the spelling). I'm using Zend these days though, just because it's closer to the sort of component-based framework I use at work.
Re: To create a Symfony or not?
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:58 pm
by josh
I think its better for certain kinds of apps. The fact it had a cookie cutter "shopping cart" class kind of turned me away from it, it made too many assumptions about my design. I use zend personally if anything else because of the amount of popularity it has, I know it'll be around, I know they'll keep fixing bugs, I know there will always be demand for programmers with experience in it ( until something bigger comes along ). I also feel like Zend is really easy to extend but I havent played with any other frameworks in enough detail to make that statement in 100% confidence.