Why only PHP to outsource Indian Market?

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Re: Why only PHP to outsource Indian Market?

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onion2k wrote:You think your bank manager would give you a loan so that you could pay a higher price to a local developer instead of outsourcing if that was an option?
There is no doubt in my mind a bank would do that. Maybe not where you are, but they sure would here. Banks respect the reasons why businesses choose their vendors.

Are you sure you're not thinking of wall-mart?
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Re: Why only PHP to outsource Indian Market?

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astions wrote:
papa wrote:True and I'm not that into politics usually, but just the attitude of "agree with me or smurf of" isn't really healthy.
Well not being able to get a job, losing your house and accepting food from a food bank isn't really healthy either. Look, service economies don't work. If everyone in a particular country is buying stuff, but not making stuff, they are on borrowed time as far as their economy goes. I mean hell, we've been outsourcing industry for decades more and more. More recently we have started to outsource service jobs such as customer service, engineering, accountants, programmers etc. So therefore if anyone is going to tell me that an economy with nothing more than service jobs such as retail, public service (police, fire, etc), government, food service and health-care is going to do well, they are nuts. Seriously. All these people working in fast food restaurants who can barely afford rent aren't going to be buying many durable goods, and even if they did it wouldn't benefit us because they are being shipped from overseas, which in turn makes the economy worse.

The fact is that when you export your industry you are damaging your economy. Is it democracy? Sure it is. Is it capitalism? Sure it is. Are those valid arguments for it? That's your call. I will say this though, a corporation selling widgets in country X, benefiting from X's economy, who decides to fire their employees and move them to country Y, so they can earn even more money from country X while paying country X less taxes, is treason. Yes I just said that. If this company making widgets is forced to move operations due to competition, then it is the fault of the government in country X for not protecting their industry.

This is a tough conversation to have with people. There are lots of different views but it's really not that complicated. It's pretty simple, export your jobs, watch your economy tank. Hell you can even try it on Sim City. Build your city up nice and then bulldoze all the industry and watch what happens.
You have some valid points and I agree on some of it, though it's not that black and white.

Here in Sweden the government have monopoly on alcohol and gambling which results in a lot of smuggling for example. A lot of countries face the problem that industries/companies moves to other countries, but there are other ways of solving that then to forbid them from outsourcing.
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Re: Why only PHP to outsource Indian Market?

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I think it depends on people's attitudes, the same goods that can be wastefully consumed can be transformed into more valuable goods and sold within the country. I understand your arguments and agree in certain contexts. At the same time people said things like the invention of the tractor would put farmers out of business, etc... In my opinion yes having huge companies like Walmart who import from Taiwan does kill jobs, but at the same time that just means more people motivated to contribute to higher causes then manual labor, like curing diseases, etc....

Thing is like I said its not like chess where you have black and white rules ( if outsource jobs then economy tank ), even if X causes Y, as soon as word gets out about X people will start trading futures for Y. I don't think any of us have the answers.
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