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creating user system
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:38 pm
by alislow
Hi, i don't have any experience in creating websites and i want to build an
online translation agency Website.
one of my problems is that i want to create a user system (is it right?) which
in there translators can see list of current orders with full details and
choose from them . some other stuff like accounting, ticket sending and etc is
also needed. how to create that? i mean what programming language or plugin or
framework or etc should i use for that?
other parts of websites such as Our services and About us and Contact us can
be created using WordPress Child Themes, right?
and let's take an example. well, you go to a car wash and order them to wash your car. so an washing order from you is available for workers. price (i,g 5 $), delivery date (30 m later), Requirement (be quick plz!) and etc are also available. workers can see their previous activities list and their payments (maybe you too). they can send message to each other and ...now what their manager should do if he want to make processes online?
SORRY for bad English!
Re: creating user system
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:21 pm
by requinix
If you don't have any experience then I'm going to have to suggest you get someone to build and maintain this site for you. WP is... "nice" and all, but you can't just go to the WP Shop and buy a Online Translation Agency Website plugin. Websites aren't make of Legos people piece together.
Either that or you should be prepared to learn PHP, SQL, HTML/CSS, web development, and all-around programming (to drop only a couple names). But that's going to take time.
Re: creating user system
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:18 am
by alislow
requinix wrote:If you don't have any experience then I'm going to have to suggest you get someone to build and maintain this site for you. WP is... "nice" and all, but you can't just go to the WP Shop and buy a Online Translation Agency Website plugin. Websites aren't make of Legos people piece together.
Either that or you should be prepared to learn PHP, SQL, HTML/CSS, web development, and all-around programming (to drop only a couple names). But that's going to take time.
Thank for help.
first, i wanna do that myself. now must i learn them or there is another simple way? can i do that with frameworks? any plugin available?
and is WordPress a good platform for this?
Re: creating user system
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:57 am
by califdon
As requinix has said, a complex, interactive website requires a great deal more knowledge and experience than it sounds like you have. All those languages and libraries and standards are just tools that would require years of experience in order to reach a level that would allow you to develop a website with features that might approach what you described. I admire your ambition, and I'm sure you can learn these skills if you have the desire to do so, and we can help you find the resources that will help you, but it would be irresponsible for me to suggest that you could just select a few "tools" and read a few tutorials and then develop a comprehensive (or really, almost any) commercial website within a few months. Personally, I would estimate that you would have more than a year of full time studying to do! If you can't devote full time to learning web development, including databases, I don't think the best student in the world could do it in less than 3 or 4 years. Yes, it's that complicated. My advice is the same as requinix: hire a web developer if you can, or join a group of amateurs where you might find someone willing to do the job for you, as an exercise for their own education.
Re: creating user system
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:33 am
by alislow
i wanna be a game developer too. so can i choose c# and ASP.NET or i should choose PHP?
Re: creating user system
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:34 pm
by requinix
Like on a website? Or what? PHP isn't really made for gaming but you could use it as the backend for some kind of web-based game.
Re: creating user system
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:05 pm
by califdon
A game developer, too? I would add at least another year or two to my estimates in my previous response. Really my advice is this: don't worry about which languages or frameworks you want to learn, at this point. What you need most is a solid foundation in computer science, not specific skills with any particular tool, at least for a couple of years. Learning any particular language now is likely to be the wrong one by the time you absorb the fundamentals. Use your time wisely: study the fundamentals first!
Re: creating user system
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:01 am
by social_experiment
califdon wrote:study the fundamentals first
ditto.
alislow wrote:now must i learn them or there is another simple way?
There is no simple way

As other posters mentioned this takes time; time for you to become accustomed to things like syntax, to develop a programming mindset. Learning a programming language (the syntax) is relatively easy compared to the principles of good programming & design, those take time and experience. If you really want to setup your website right this moment you could but if you really want to be a programmer you understand that just setting up your cms isn't enough. You'll want to understand why it works, how it works. You'll want to take a look at the code and see what it does, how it can be changed, modify and what its limits are. Personally i think if you aren't curious about these type of things, avoid programming.
Below is a site you might look at if developing games is what you want. Gives you some idea of what to prepare for when entering the industry.
http://www.fastgraph.com/makegames/chapt1.html
hth
Re: creating user system
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:32 pm
by califdon
That's a great article on games development, social_experiment! Very witty, but seems like solid advice.