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Ajax forum??

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:57 pm
by califdon
Ajax questions can sometimes be posted in PHP - Code, sometimes in Javascript. Note Luke's post in viewtopic.php?f=13&t=112234&p=591186#p591186. Would it make sense to have a separate Ajax forum to centralize all Ajax issues?

Re: Ajax forum??

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:47 pm
by josh
I would say no because it overlaps existing forums we have. Ajax is a buzz word anyways. What about those using plain text, or JSON?

Also that thread is a recurring question. I don't think we should make a new forum just to house such a basic fundamental question (a simple search already turns up TONS of threads, do we need more?). In that thread the poster did not know what ajax even was at all. In that case he probably would have missed the ajax forum thinking its a dish cleaning substance ;-) http://signaturesterling.files.wordpres ... 1/ajax.jpg

Re: Ajax forum??

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:13 pm
by Benjamin
Yes, it's really a mixture of client and server side technologies. If someone is having an issue, it's either one or the other.. and we do have forums for both.

Re: Ajax forum??

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:19 am
by josh
Idea for better name: Rich Internet Applications?

Re: Ajax forum??

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:59 am
by pickle
Not to mention the more forums we have, the less clear it is which forum a question goes into.

Re: Ajax forum??

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:46 am
by Benjamin
josh wrote:Idea for better name: Rich Internet Applications?
"Rich" could mean lots of graphics and flash. I think the odds are that an AJAX replacement is just around the corner and that it will be embraced fairly quickly.

Re: Ajax forum??

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:22 pm
by califdon
Glad I asked. :wink: I certainly can't disagree with any of those points. Just thought maybe it would make it easier for someone new to the forums to find discussions of Ajax related questions. Anyway, that's an interesting thought, about the possibility that Ajax may soon be replaced by something different.

Re: Ajax forum??

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:19 pm
by Eran
HTML 5 will supposedly provide a native API for server-client communication after page load. http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/comms.html#comms

Re: Ajax forum??

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:43 pm
by Benjamin
We really need a way to be able to PUSH data to the browser, rather than request or poll for it. I'm hedging my bets on that.

Re: Ajax forum??

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:09 pm
by Eran
The channel messaging is two-way - you can send and receive to/from the server / other clients. It remains to be seen how this would be implemented in practice.

Re: Ajax forum??

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:25 pm
by califdon
astions wrote:We really need a way to be able to PUSH data to the browser, rather than request or poll for it. I'm hedging my bets on that.
That scares me. Wouldn't that provide the baddies a whole new world of ways to annoy or attack us?

Re: Ajax forum??

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:54 pm
by John Cartwright

Re: Ajax forum??

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:08 pm
by Eran
Most applications of comet are not real server push, it is mostly a hack to simulate it through either long-polling or periodic polling