Hockey wrote:... Perl will die a slow painful death cause of all the legacy scripts probably floating aorund for *nix ...
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Hockey wrote:... Perl will die a slow painful death cause of all the legacy scripts probably floating aorund for *nix ...
What's up with that, right? Who's up to port trac to PHP?Python is like the object oriented replacement for Perl...I see it no where except in Trac
They suck in comparison. That's why.Why move from PHP when you have CakePHP, Symfony and the other one I contribute to? There are fewer reasons these days.
Interesting but that could be for many reasons. Maybe we've exhausted the community of the majority of early adopters so things will have to mature a bit before the next influx come in.Though I did see a recent Rails blog post about the recent downturn in Rails blog posts over the last year.
Haven't yet got into it and I'm not sure when I will because I've forsaken blog reading in favour of book reading.You reading planetrubyonrails.com too?
Perhaps I have judged PHP too harshly. I've been writing some PHP recently and whilst I have issue with writing endless getters and setters the language isn't bad, at all. I used to love PHP and there are many reasons for this. Maugrim brings to mind the fact that the language is still improving - I still haven't tried out 5.3 and the namespacing or late static binding features.I hate to sound harsh, but do we really want to add an area to these forums to attract people who will harp on and on that PHP is dying and sucks?
I hope so, it is those that are entirely closed, almost fearful, that stand to benefit the most from this but are also the most resistant. Of course they would have to partake in the new forums in order to benefit.I think the PHP programming members would be open, and even interested, to the idea of Ruby and Python forums here.
I guess because 'two of them is just right'.califdon wrote:Going completely off-topic, that reminds me of the question, "Why are martinis like a woman's breasts?" Anybody remember the answer?
I wish the same thing. My current pet peeve in PHP has grown over the past year or two from my experience with Ruby. Whether anyone likes it or not, PHP has grown into a handicapped language - not because of the language, but because of the nature of many of its users. I still cannot refer to a Ruby library or feature in a PHP scenario without inviting misunderstandings or even flames. Over the years I've used C/C++/Java/Perl/Javascript/Ruby/Smalltalk and more recently a little Erlang. Every new language opens up new horizons in PHP - other languages add to your experience in a way I will always believe is superior to PHP's continual and ever pervasive inferiority complex. What I mean by that is that PHP for some reason is slow to adopt new practices - really slow. It's part of what makes PHP look odd and amateurush from the perspective of other languages.No programmer can say they know too much. I want more people here, some whom PHP is both their first and last language, to widen their outlook and see more of what is available. I would like others to appreciate the different programming paradigms and approaches that have been taken toward the problem of programming language design. I have started to do this, I want to do it more. I believe it has already started to make me into a better PHP programmer and a better programmer in general.