September 11, 2002

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September 11, 2002

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Should we do anything to comimerate(sp?) the lives lost last year?
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if you do, do something to comemorate the lives lost every year in the middle east, because the deathcount i think is 15x greater then 9/11
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Why is it that when another country want's to commemorate the past, no one looks twice, but when the US want's to commemorate the past, people feel that it's something wrong.

Enygma can't even post on PHPDev a happy 4th of July without someone getting upset.

Should we commemorate that day? Of course. Should we remember that day, yes. Just like Pearl Harbor, it is a day that will live on forever.
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We should commemorate 9/11. In the past few weeks there have been a great deal of documentary programs screened in the UK. The accounts from people that were in the buildings have been horrendous and I hope that I or my family never have to go through that experience.
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Post by phice »

DeviantArt.com is doing something really cool... They are asking every single member to make a few images of september 11, what it means to them, and all that good stuff. Every single picture will be added in the article, which I think is great. ;D
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One question.

How come everyone cares about those who died on Sep. 11 and not the poeple who were killed by America in middle east or suffering because of US... I'm not saying we shouldn't care but there's something wrong :?
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that's what i'm wondering.
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Is this just all media based hysteria?
Sure looks like it to me... lets hype everything that goes on in the us and sit on everything else...
9/11 sells newspapers... violence in palestine doesnt
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if i made a 911rememberance.com site i bet i would have 20K hits in a few days :P

hmm...that's a damn good buisness strategy....

*registers*
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lol
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If you make one for mddle east you get 20k hits in a few decades :(
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if your lucky
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Post by jason »

Takuma wrote:One question.

How come everyone cares about those who died on Sep. 11 and not the poeple who were killed by America in middle east or suffering because of US... I'm not saying we shouldn't care but there's something wrong :?
One question: Why is it when <span style='color:blue' title='I&#39;m naughty, are you naughty?'>smurf</span> hits the fan, and the US isnt' there, we get asked "Why aren't you helping, you have the power to help?", and when we do help, people ask "Why are you helping, it's not your affair?".

And in response to your question: Everyone is obviously a reference to the US, because besides the political spokes person of several other countries, I doubt anyone else really cares. So why should American's care about Sep. 11 and not remember the other dead? Because who else will remember? Who else will really care? I don't see Bosnian's getting asked this question when they want to remember their dead, or Israelies.

Frankly, I have had enough of this anti-[Country] crap. People go around blaming the US for all the woes of the world. It's the classic example of everyone blaming one person. I am not saying the US is guilt free, far from it. However, we don't do it alone.

I could say a lot more, but I won't. Let me just say this: Anyone who wants to say a thing about any nation better know what they are saying. Any atrocity of this sort isn't something to be taken lightly. And if an Arab came to the boards, and something bad happened in their nation, it would be recieved with respect and dignity. But be careful your words in insulting other nations or people's.

I may be American, but that doesn't mean I am blind.

P.S. Takuma, I know you didn't mean anything malicious by what you said, the words you used however sparked something, and I had to respond. Don't worry, we're still cool. :D
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Post by volka »

I don't think there's something wrong about commemorating Sep. 11th.
There's nothing wrong about saying "no, we don't want anybody to die that way".
Don't let anybody abuse that day to demand a cut in rights of freedom or to make a call to arms. But just as little say "that's what you deserve" because there are many that may deserve death but for sure there are many who deserve to live.
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