What CMS doe you use? When? Why and Where?
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alex.barylski
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What CMS doe you use? When? Why and Where?
The subject sums it up...
I'd like to hear what CMS you use given a certain task, where, why, when, etc???
For simple sites WP will usually suffice. Anything more complex and I lean towards Joomla usually.
I have tinkered/experimented with a few dozen but these are the two I keep coming back to.
What about you? I'd really like to hear your complaints and compliments about each one to, if you care to be that detailed.
Cheers,
Alex
I'd like to hear what CMS you use given a certain task, where, why, when, etc???
For simple sites WP will usually suffice. Anything more complex and I lean towards Joomla usually.
I have tinkered/experimented with a few dozen but these are the two I keep coming back to.
What about you? I'd really like to hear your complaints and compliments about each one to, if you care to be that detailed.
Cheers,
Alex
Re: What CMS doe you use? When? Why and Where?
Home grown. Our site's got 2000+ pages, so WP wouldn't work. Joomla & other CMSs seemed too generic to neatly fit our requirements without a lot of overhead. Plus, we needed human readable URLS, which I'm not sure is easily done in other CMSs.
Real programmers don't comment their code. If it was hard to write, it should be hard to understand.
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alex.barylski
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Re: What CMS doe you use? When? Why and Where?
I knew someone was going to say that.Our site's got 2000+ pages, so WP wouldn't work. Joomla & other CMSs seemed too generic to neatly fit our requirements without a lot of overhead. Plus, we needed human readable URLS, which I'm not sure is easily done in other CMSs.
What is a human readable URL?
That was my biggest gripe with Joomla...getting it to use SEF URL's has proven to be impossible without extensive experience in Joomla, plugins, component development, understanding of it's routing, etc.
It was to complex for my needs to so I started on my own.
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A URL like: http://www.website.com/courses/biology/staff.html is human-readable.
A URL like: http://www.website.com/site.jsp?id=4432-447&ref=3 is not human-readable
A URL like: http://www.website.com/site.jsp?id=4432-447&ref=3 is not human-readable
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alex.barylski
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Re: What CMS doe you use? When? Why and Where?
A URL like: http://www.website.com/courses/biology/staff.html is human-readable.
Joomla can do that...the caveat is...it applies it's own folders/segments in a URI to indicate which component to invoke, etc.
Joomla can do that...the caveat is...it applies it's own folders/segments in a URI to indicate which component to invoke, etc.
Re: What CMS doe you use? When? Why and Where?
So? That enforces developers to employ modularity. BTW Joomla is not a CMS, it is a framework & document manager. Content != Document. Documents are a subset of content. Joomla is a pretty decent ( for being OS ) code base tho. For a "real" CMS it doesn't even come close though. I'd consider it a website management system not a content management system.PCSpectra wrote:Joomla can do that...the caveat is...it applies it's own folders/segments in a URI to indicate which component to invoke, etc.
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Re: What CMS doe you use? When? Why and Where?
CMS is probably the most abused term...it's like MVC... 
Depending on whether you consider content everything from resources, documents and web pages or just textual output to be read by thin clients, Joomla is potentially a lot of things.
It's codebase is certainly more OO friendly than WordPress but it's far from being highly cohesive, neither are the components loosely coupled, but at least the developers took a stab at using patterns to some degree.
WordPress has a savage codebase...Matt is clearly not a perfectionist...then again I don't know of many wildly successful perfectionists.
Depending on whether you consider content everything from resources, documents and web pages or just textual output to be read by thin clients, Joomla is potentially a lot of things.
It's codebase is certainly more OO friendly than WordPress but it's far from being highly cohesive, neither are the components loosely coupled, but at least the developers took a stab at using patterns to some degree.
WordPress has a savage codebase...Matt is clearly not a perfectionist...then again I don't know of many wildly successful perfectionists.
Re: What CMS doe you use? When? Why and Where?
Well generally a CMS would be able to store different things about the content, joomla is a page management system. Pages have titles and bodies. Content has semantic value.
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Re: What CMS doe you use? When? Why and Where?
I found that WordPress is good enough for small websites; with a dozen plug-ins it can be almost a CMS. That said, having knowledge of PHP is a good idea when working with WordPress as you need to be working with page templates to get the content to display the way you want to. It's not a bad base to build up on.
Joomla - IMHO, it's big and clunky and hard to work with. My experiences is strictly limited to the first version, not 1.5, but adding modules and assigning them is a pain.
Joomla - IMHO, it's big and clunky and hard to work with. My experiences is strictly limited to the first version, not 1.5, but adding modules and assigning them is a pain.
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Re: What CMS doe you use? When? Why and Where?
To throw my tuppence in, I'm a big fan of Wordpress. I'm curious about the comment saying it wouldn't be suitable for 2000 page plus, can you elaborate on that?
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I use mostly wordpress. I developed some on Joomla when I was forced too, and it was pretty horrible (btw, it is a CMS - it has a framework base but also an application front).
Wordpress shouldn't have problems handling a few thousands pages. Their database structure is relatively optimized for its needs, and there a few caching plug-ins that can help with scalability.
Wordpress shouldn't have problems handling a few thousands pages. Their database structure is relatively optimized for its needs, and there a few caching plug-ins that can help with scalability.
Re: What CMS doe you use? When? Why and Where?
i use http://www.honoweb.net HonoCMS
HonoCMS is easiy setup,change template layout, and easy integrate.
it can create backend code automatical by tools.
HonoCMS is easiy setup,change template layout, and easy integrate.
it can create backend code automatical by tools.
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Re: What CMS doe you use? When? Why and Where?
Danymic web page update....is that some sort of new technology? 
Just teasing.
Unfortunately a reality is, it appears to be built using Java? In which case it's useless to me as I don't know of many Java hosts, if any for shared hosting.
Just teasing.
Unfortunately a reality is, it appears to be built using Java? In which case it's useless to me as I don't know of many Java hosts, if any for shared hosting.